AE outsourcing
 

It appears that the good ol' Tribune is just a day late and a dollar short...

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...hautauqua.html

Ae
 

Thanks. Missed that

You mean American Airlines outsourcing....

Just part of the Ain't My Responsibility business plan to whip saw pilots. The funny part is the pilots keep fallling for it by fighting each other. The AA pilots are all po'd at the Eagle pilots and the Eagle pilots are all po'd at the Chautauqua pilots! It's crazy. Wake up dummies! Don't you know when you're being played by management?

An people tend to wonder why I consider EGL a stepping stone to something better... Thats a big reason why...

whats the status of the grievance eagle filed about this situation?

I would bet this grievance is settled after the expiration date of the CHQ contract

3 knocked out just last night. big fights every day at the airport. making big money in bookie fees.

You could consider this good news -

Eagle flying going to Republic... that's kinda like mainline recapturing small jet flying from a regional. Just without the mainline pay.

Maybe Eagle is just giving you a taste of the future. Just like breaking in a virgin, you don't want to shove it all in at once.

Republic is growing out of its regional roots while Eagle remains a feeder airline. Soon Republic may be codesharing with American on many domestic routes supplying both midsize airliners and their own feed.

Republic bought several airlines. If the price is right, they could easily buy Eagle too. Isn't it still up for sale?

Since the two airlines have different unions and since the Eagle pilots have shown so much pettiness about Chicago in their treatment of Chautauqua pilots, any merger will be by staple. Since the Eagle pilots have shown their true colors in how they treated the Chautauqua pilots and their own senior pilots, it would serve them right too.

I don't want to see that happen. I'd rather see mainline AA flying their own routes instead of outsourcing them via codeshare to RAH. Code sharing is management's next major push to get around scope.

Wheeler, you must be as your avitar shows! Just a monkey in a suit! Most of us Eagle pilots understand that the Chautauqua pilots themselves are not to blame and as for the senior pilots, they wanted to flow when things were going good, so why shouldn't they have to go now when things aren't so good! They are gonna get what they wanted, only a couple years later than when it should have happened! What about the 2000 plus junior guys that have suffered pay, upgrade, and qol becuase they(the flowthroughs) didn't go in 2007?

You just proved you are no better than he is. The industry has been taken over by the Me Generation.

Actually, this is true. Several years ago Eagle ALPA grieved the contracting of both TSA and CHQ as AA feeders since it violated our scope clause. The ruling was no violation took place since ALPA's scope clause was between the Eagle pilots and American Eagle Airlines whereas the TSA and CHQ contracts were between them and AA.

hate to disagree because I likely will not get the last word - but arb ruled that this was EXISTING flying and therefore not a violation of scope. He did say ANY new flying belonged to ae. therefore, a new grievance was filed as it does fit this category of new flying.

I hope you are correct and I hope we win. http://forums.artofwarcentral.com/im.../gfdgdey20.gif

told ya I wouldn't get the last word.

Actually, mainline recapturing small jet flying from a regional without mainline pay would be considered good news, in my opinion.

ct

Seriously? you are a douch bag. I hope not all RAH pilots are pompous brats like yourself.

AE is not for sale. this is a violation of a collective bargining agreement between AMR and Eagle ALPA. you obviously have no idea what or how a pilot union is supposed to conduct business.

I usualy keep quite on here but your comments sir disgust me.

Of course he doesn't understand how a union works. He works for Replacement Air Holdings. They replaced Midwest pilots and put them on the streets, they are starting to replace Frontier pilots, and Eagle pilots are next. They can't even get a REAL pilots union to represent them.

According to the American Beagle President at a Presidential meeting last year, the airline is for sale. Whether or not this is an Am-Ron ploy to mess with the Arrogant Phallus Association, I do not know, but he seemed certain Beagle would no longer be a wholly-owned by 2014.

The good news is that, if true, I'm sure this is more about dodging scope restrictions than dumping the Beagle for Brand X or Y, so you'll probably still have a job.

OTOH, the best potential buyer for Beagle would be your friend at Replacement Air Holdings. Do they merge pilot lists or staple?

Neither. Ask the Midwest pilots.

So how's that union at Skywest working out for you? Fly any trips that used to be flown by DL 737-200s, 727s, or UA 737s lately? Are you even old enough to know the answer?

PS I agree the guy you're quoting comes off as a completely immature "me" type. But your incessant bashing of RAH from, well, Skywest is laughable.

Is it just me, or does it seem like RAH is slowly taking over the world?? I have this mental picture of BB sitting in a big swivel chair stroking a white cat.

Actually, many if not all of the Midwest pilots will have the opportunity to come over here once arbitration is complete. So how many pilots exactly aren't flying at Delta and United, and ironically even Midwest for a while, because passengers are being forced to fly in the back of your uncomfortable jets?

Sad but true. It will be okay though, I heard that the Rat is learning to fly helicopters and there are plenty of tall brick smokestacks in Indy.

They are not being forced, they chose the lowest air fare!

And how many do you think will come back for the awful rates you have? $37 an hour for a 100 seat....oops, I mean 99 seat airplane? You got to be joking. The Midwest guys are not struck with shiny jet syndrome that they will fly for those rates. They have backbone. They know what unity is.
Let's see how many of them come over to Rah.

Are your posts serious, or joking? Hopfully you constantly jest, because this stuff cannot be taken seriously.

What's the joke? Much of it's true. Between those who have already retired, resigned or have already found jobs both flying and not, I would be surprised if you see 25% come back and of those maybe 10-15% actually fly a revenue flight. Even in this market it is remarkable how many have already found jobs. This is if the SLI comes back as a ratio with a fence. Any worse than that and the percentage goes down quickly. Of course if CAL recalls and starts to hire our guys like FL is, then there maybe a handful.

The joke is this kid screams to the rooftops while working for Skywest (you know, same holding company, whip-sawing ASA, non-union....). He screams about the toothpick in RAH's eye while ignoring the plank in his.