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beech_nut 02-21-2010 09:21 AM

Interesting letter from Roger Cohen I found
 
Take a read as Roger Cohen pathetically tries to defend the position of the RAA to a travel magazine editor

http://www.raa.org/Portals/0/News/CondeNast120109.pdf

twebb 02-21-2010 09:48 AM

The RAA is doing a study with washington state university for fatigue on regional pilots...GREAT. But, the RAA likes to use averages, I can see them using the best regional contract for rest rules and flight limits, use the average of those times, and find out that the "average" regional pilot is only flying 4 hours a day, on duty 10 hrs, and gets 14 hours of rest, therefore no change is needed.

makersmarc 02-21-2010 09:52 AM

Any chance for a link back to the Conde Nast article?

While what Cohen may state in this letter is factually correct, it is but a rebuttal and as such paints a very incomplete picture.

twebb 02-21-2010 10:11 AM

You are right, nothing he said in that letter was a lie. But I do hate that they say safety is number one to the company. The first thing to any for-profit company is making money for the company and the shareholders. If it isn't, the company has failed. Ethically the first priority should be safety, and I think it is to most pilots. Now if you can market yourself as the safest airline in the world, where people buy your tickets because of extra safety measures, and that offsets the cost of safety, then you have a great airline.

Jinrai Butai 02-21-2010 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 767117)
Take a read as Roger Cohen pathetically tries to defend the position of the RAA to a travel magazine editor

What's interesting is that, in my native language, the words "Roger Cohen" mean an unwiped anal orifice. Funny how these things happen, eh?

Cohen's testimony to Congress on Colgen is a travesty of lies and half truths. There is no coicidence between his name and what it means where I come from.

FlyJSH 02-21-2010 03:51 PM

I too would like to see the original article.

Conde Nast had voted Midwest Express/Midwest as the best domestic carrier for years. Maybe they were just sad to see the all-first-class seats and "best care in the air" go away.

ugflyer 02-21-2010 07:12 PM

I have always been told when you have nothing good to say, don't say anything. And I have NOTHING good to say about that *&%*%&%^$& Roger Cohen.

Phrog Phlyer 02-21-2010 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 767342)
I too would like to see the original article.

Downsized! The Rise of Regional Airlines from Condé Nast Traveler on Concierge.com

What's the difference between Roger Cohen and a catfish? One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder and the other is fish.

ThrustMonkey 02-21-2010 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jinrai Butai (Post 767142)
What's interesting is that, in my native language, the words "Roger Cohen" mean an unwiped anal orifice. Funny how these things happen, eh?

Cohen's testimony to Congress on Colgen is a travesty of lies and half truths. There is no coicidence between his name and what it means where I come from.

I think in the spirit of this we should start a campaign to replace labels such as SNAFU, FUBAR, TU and JACKED UP with a more universal title called Roger Cohen'd or simply something is Romeo Charlie.

ATC: "state the nature of the problem?"
Flt1234 "We are declaring an emergency as our #2 engine is completely Romeo Charlie"
ATC: "Roger, rollin trucks....."

block30 02-21-2010 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Phrog Phlyer (Post 767462)
Downsized! The Rise of Regional Airlines from Condé Nast Traveler on Concierge.com

What's the difference between Roger Cohen and a catfish? One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder and the other is fish.

I laughed so hard at that I think I may have woken up my wife who is sleeping upstairs!

But more seriously, as good as this article is, the flying public is not being held accountable for their own actions in my opinion.

If the public continues to base purchasing decisions based on dirt cheap prices and not based on safety and quality, the results are predictable. I think a lot of these articles and TV specials need to emphasize that the consumers themselves are driving the industry.


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