Mason32

Of ALL the arguements, that one is the weakest, the most incorrect, and constantly repeating it just places doubt on everything else you guys say.

The contract, typically called a CBA, is something you accepted. It will have multiple little sections, and supplements (LOA's), none of which YOU will sign for; yet you will get the benefit of each section... so, claiming "I didnt' sign anything" is irrelevant to the issue; since the supplement (LOA) was negotiated as part of your contract.

There is probably nothing in your contract saying how you get reimbursed for parking either... only that you do. It is up to the company to decide the process, and at most airlines they provide a form for you to submit for that... the point being that just because every little minutia isn't spelled out in a contract doesn't mean it isn't valid.

again, this arguement doesn't help your case either.

Didn't I hear that the arbitrator already said he isn't going to force anybody to flow, isn't going to push anybody into a furlough, and that if you chose not to go your slot does pass to the next guy in line?

So, what's the problem then ?

Beagle Pilot

All excellent points, buddies8. Although I wouldn't characterize the fact some (not all) pilots made their mark on a piece of paper as illegal, it certainly is not a contract nor a legal document.

It won't be the first time a group of unionized pilots have sacrificed a portion of their own membership for the personal gain of the others and it won't be the last. It happened with Metro Eagle when EAL collapsed and AMR only wanted the DFW operation, not the ATL hub so the MEC Chairman and his henchmen cut all the ATL pilots loose regardless of seniority.

The treatment of both DAL and UAL regarding their acquisition of Pan Am, the AA acquisition of TWA and the AAA pilot hissy fit in the merger with AWA are all examples of union pilots greedily stabbing each other in the back to line their own pockets. While I still believe a union is in our best interests, it is important that we hold our leadership and membership to the Code of Ethics.

Beagle Pilot

Saying it's weak doesn't make it so. The fact remains it is true. Saying that marking an option entails a legal obligation to stick with that choice forever and that one must go through with it regardless of when or where doesn't make it true either no matter how often it is said.
The problem is similar to that of a person who finds out a coworker attempted to steal their identity and raid their bank account. Just because it failed doesn't mean it should be forgiven or forgotten.

On the side; How's that ground job working out since you left Eagle? You've obviously miss it since you've kept in touch and love talking about it. Any regrets about leaving?