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BoilerUP 04-06-2010 07:34 AM

Many, if not most, airlines utilize the services of Ford & Harrison when negotiating with their labor groups. And F&H has one hell of a reputation in management circles for their success in "dealing" with labor issues.

Pilots sitting across the table from F&H specialists is like the Taliban engaging in a firefight with Recon Marines - it ain't gonna be pretty for one side.

It costs money, big money, to bring in representation like this...

rdneckpilot 04-07-2010 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 783289)
The CRJ seatbelts are not deferrable, but the passenger seat is. The seat is repair category C, which means the MEL is only valid for 10 days after the deferral is made. I guess Embraer / Chautauqua have a different set of rules, or maybe their POI doesn't care.

The seat is not MEL deferred. It is deactivated.

yamahas3 04-07-2010 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 790740)
Many, if not most, airlines utilize the services of Ford & Harrison when negotiating with their labor groups. And F&H has one hell of a reputation in management circles for their success in "dealing" with labor issues.

Pilots sitting across the table from F&H specialists is like the Taliban engaging in a firefight with Recon Marines - it ain't gonna be pretty for one side.

It costs money, big money, to bring in representation like this...

I don't get why pilot groups don't pony up the cash and hire real, qualified, trained, negotiators. Say $5M, and take it straight out of the new deal thats being negotiated. A professional negotiator could probably regain that and more.

Pilots are pilots, they fly planes. Leave the negotiating to people who know what they're doing.

meeko031 04-07-2010 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by yamahas3 (Post 791307)
I don't get why pilot groups don't pony up the cash and hire real, qualified, trained, negotiators.

it will do no good, he/she will be easily influenced with hand outs, just like everyone else! "it's the precious"


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