Hear, Hear. Well put, XJSaab. I couldn't have said it better. I think that's the main reason many still say welcome aboard Mesaba Airlines. We work hard to put out a quality product on bahalf of Delta and we are proud of it.

God forbid there is a crash... But we all know the PR people for Delta will be the first to say that was a Delta-Connection flight and not an actual Delta flight. Kinda like how the whole Colgan thing played out in the press. At first everything was "Continental 3407", then as the days go by you finally saw that Contiental was actually trying to seperate themselves from this crash. It was now "Colgan 3407"

Really...who cares... make the stupid PA saying Delta..finish the trip.. go home and forget about it. Saying Delta or Delta Connection isnt gonna change the fact that we are paid and treated like crap.

ding ding ding...we have a winner.

FWIW, new FIF stating that we should resume "Delta Connection Flight XXXX" immediately.

I'm not sure you get the whole point of these message boards. Important/interesting to you or not, it's simply dissemination of information to fellow aviators. If you find a particular subject uninteresting/irrelevant, then just click the 'back' button.

Which company??

Let's just say that the Delta MEC took this very seriously and expressed their view of it to senior management.

New memo came out today at Comair - Pilots are now "FORBIDDEN" from using the name Comair in ANY PA announcements. Effective immediately, the only approved name is "Delta Connection".

That's right, the word "Forbidden" was actually used.

In a memo. About speech. To professionals.

I guess "prohibited" was too soft, S.TF.U was too blue collar, and "outlawed" was too harsh?

Is this what you're referencing, acl?

1. D. 7. - Delta Connection flying aircraft will only bear the name “Delta” as part of a phrase referencing a Connection-type operation.

Very good post! I agree with you 100%.

Thats what I'm talkin about. Just do what I do, dont make boarding announcements. :) If you do HAVE to make a PA, just dont say the name.

Were you the Captain on the DCI flight I rode on last week? We were delayed two hours for a mechanical problem. When we finally did board, the pilots didn't make a single PA to the passengers during the entire flight about the problem or even apologizing for running late. Looked pretty bad. Who cares, though... you don't work for Delta, right? You may have been joking about the above statement... hence the smiley. It's just annoying when a DCI carrier doesn't give a crap about Delta passengers. If the passengers have a bad experience on a DCI carrier, they don't get ****ed at Comair, Skywest, ASA, etc... they get ****ed at Delta. This is one of many reasons why we need to take some of our flying back and/or not give away anymore scope. We need to be able to control the quality of our product.

So what are you waiting for?

Nope that wasn't me. I was not joking though. When we are delayed I make plenty of announcements. I was just talking about normal boarding announcements. If there is something wrong I will let people know. It just suck to always have to appologize for the company I work for, ie waiting for 30 to 45 minutes for numbers. I care greatly for my pax. I could care less if they are "Delta" pax, when they are on my airplane they are MY pax, and I will treat them like I would my family.

According to the numbers our management publishes ASA and Skywest actually get higher marks than mainline when it comes to providing the passengers with "timely and accurate" information. I believe the forms and questionnaires that customers complete do not allow the customer to fill in the carrier, the company that compiles that information determines what carrier the customer was flying based on flight number and date.

I can believe that. I spent seven years at Skywest and they were very focused on customer service. In fact, in my new hire class, the managers who came in to talk to my class consistently said how much they like Skywest.

I wish it was that easy!!

Nice. I figured your were just joking around!

I kind of agree with you. I get so sick of the standard PA "welcome aboard flight #### service to ###, operated by ####." People know where they are going and they can care less about what flight it is. Cockpit PA's should be short and concise and not drag on and on.

Too bad you and your brethren did not have that great idea 10 years ago.

Ya, tell me about it!! I would have a lot more seniority right now! :)

Must be working, crews are in compliance. Rode a Comair flight today, oops, Delta Connection flight.... Announced as "this is Delta Connection flight xxxx to JFK" No mention of Comair.... whatsoever.

On a side note: Browsing through the Sky mag, looking at the cool shiny jet pictures of the mighty Delta fleet, it shows everything from the 747-400 down to the mighty SF340 as aircraft in the "Delta Fleet" No mention of any of the current connection carriers. For the customer, the boundry line between the connection carrier and Mother Del-dah is all but gone. I wonder what the mainline DAL folks think about that :rolleyes:... Looks like those are Delta aircraft, shouldn't they be flown by Delta pilots and cabin crew? Sadly, the venerable DC-9 was suspicously absent :( So the Saab, the EMB 170, and 145 make the list, but the -9 is out. :eek:

I think the DC9 is listed with the picture of the MD88/MD90

yep they show the md 90 and list the similar aircraft

I stand corrected.... I guess the -9 folks are still in the family

How long until the "operated by xxxxx airlines" decals by the cabin door come off, I wonder?

I imagine it will keep getting smaller. The technology to print on a grain of rice exists today.

Just hope I don't have to start wearing the hat and a double-breasted jacket. At least the jacket is optional now, as opposed to May 1.

Doesn't have to get any smaller cause you can't see it unless your doing the walkaround thanks to the jet bridge :rolleyes:

Well I guess if your boarding from the tarmac maybe.

Unless the FAA changes something, that will always be on the side of all aircraft that carry a different name than there own. If you noticed before the single ops cert. was approved all NWA aircraft that were painted Delta colors had "operated by northwest airlines" in small print back left of the fuse.

Actually, those names are here and at a certain size because of requirements in the DAL PWA. Unless we delete that section, they are going no where.

Also, this little PA game is a very sticky issue here. I would be willing to be that it will get reversed and rather quickly. If not there will be some action on it.

Its been reversed in the latest FIF; we(9E) are back to saying Delta Connection.