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Terrain Terrain 04-05-2010 03:27 PM

Does anyone have any idea where our new rest
 
Anyone in the know about what happened to our new rest rules?, if not does anyone know who we can contact in the FAA to find out. I have a bad feeling that this is not going to happen.

stoki 04-05-2010 03:36 PM

Probably people stopped paying attention so the initiative went out the window until the next accident.

Avroman 04-05-2010 03:47 PM

It went down the toilet along with pay, work rules, and career progression.

whoareyou310 04-05-2010 09:00 PM

It is embedded in the FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2010, it is now in commitee hashing out the differences between the house and senate..correct me if I am wrong!

saab2000 04-06-2010 03:34 AM

Anyone know the specifics?

The 16-hour duty day has to come to an end.

Pilotguy143 04-06-2010 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 790590)
Anyone know the specifics?

The 16-hour duty day has to come to an end.


I don't know how the rest of you feel, but since the Colgan crash, calling in Fatigued has become a non-event

saab2000 04-06-2010 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotguy143 (Post 790600)
I don't know how the rest of you feel, but since the Colgan crash, calling in Fatigued has become a non-event

That's not really the point. That accident was only loosely related to fatigue. As I understand it, the crew stalled the airplane and executed a recovery from the stall which only made it worse.

A legal 16-hour duty day is absurd and the rest of the western aviation world recognizes this by having more realistic max duty periods.

We shouldn't have to call in fatigued. We should have regulations which prevent this kind of thing.

HIREME 04-06-2010 02:36 PM

Last I heard, NPRM (Notice for Public Rule Making?) is supposted to be out by the end of April according to FAA testimony to Congress....it was originally scheduled for the end of March....google FAA Fact Sheet for 1/27/2010 and read it...it says to expect an update in the Spring of this year.

FL410 04-07-2010 06:18 AM

FYI... Horizon is coming up with their our "new" rest requirements. This was caused by the extreme amount of fatigue calls/cancellations. This is one great example of the pilots and FA's working together to express good decision making, unity, and the responsibility of a airline crew. Through the fatigue calls MGMT is evaluating and will likely change the rest requirements and duty day. Rumors are no less than 10 rest and max duty of 12 hours.
Now, let actually see if it goes through. At AAG they are going to the extreme of crunching pennies. So, if those new times do go through then it is a step in the right derection. Good job to the QX crews that called in fatigued and didn't fly fatigued.

Lighteningspeed 04-07-2010 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by FL410 (Post 791271)
FYI... Horizon is coming up with their our "new" rest requirements. This was caused by the extreme amount of fatigue calls/cancellations. This is one great example of the pilots and FA's working together to express good decision making, unity, and the responsibility of a airline crew. Through the fatigue calls MGMT is evaluating and will likely change the rest requirements and duty day. Rumors are no less than 10 rest and max duty of 12 hours.
Now, let actually see if it goes through. At AAG they are going to the extreme of crunching pennies. So, if those new times do go through then it is a step in the right derection. Good job to the QX crews that called in fatigued and didn't fly fatigued.

Kudos for Horizon pilots and FAs if that's what they really did. I agree with Max duty time of no more than 12 hours and minimum overnight rest period of at least 10 hours, preferably 11 hours of rest to account for waiting for passengers to deplane, which can be very long especially if there are many requiring WCs, waiting for the hotel van and van ride to the hotel.


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