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Hoser 04-09-2010 07:04 AM

F-16s buzz ASA?
 
FAA: F-16’s flew so close to commuter plane, alarms went off

Associated Press
Published: April 9, 2010

CINCINNATI (AP) - Authorities say two F-16 jet fighters came so
close to a 70-seat commuter plane over southern Ohio that they
triggered a cockpit alarm, and the Atlantic Southeast Airlines
pilots maneuvered away from them.
ASA says Flight 5202, flying from Cleveland to Atlanta, landed
safely in Georgia on time Thursday. A spokeswoman says the two
pilots had sight of the F-16s and were able to keep on their flight
plan.
Federal Aviation Administration officials say the planes were
operated by the Ohio National Guard. A message was left Friday for
the Columbus-based Guard.
FAA spokesman Tony Molinaro says federal and military
authorities will investigate. He says radar showed the F-16s were
flying at 30,000 feet when they should have been no higher than
29,000 feet.

Information from: The Cincinnati Enquirer, http://www.enquirer.com

Hoser
ROLL TIDE!

Hoser 04-09-2010 07:12 AM

Haha! I had just thought of editing my post to put that in there but you beat me to it!

Hoser
ROLL TIDE!

DashDriverYV 04-09-2010 11:56 AM

Must have been the ASA crew at the wrong altitude, we know those highly trained military guys could never screw up:)

The Juice 04-09-2010 12:27 PM

This is a stupid article written by people who know nothing about the daily "goings on" in the regional world. A day without a TCAS TA or RA is like a day without sunshine. Flying around at 5,000' to podunk aiports with weekend warriors out in droves, just another day at the office.

USMCFLYR 04-09-2010 01:02 PM

The title of the thread is misleading in any case.
Makes it sound like whatever took place was intentional.
I highly doubt there was anything intentional about any act - on either part.

Fairly unusual to see tactical aircraft cruising in the FLs in any case since I doubt they are RVSM equipped.
Did this incident happen near any SUAS?

Can any present/past F-16 pilots shine any light on this? Is there any Block that is so equipped?

USMCFLYR

ryanb5005 04-09-2010 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 792791)

Can any present/past F-16 pilots shine any light on this? Is there any Block that is so equipped?

USMCFLYR

I put in a call to TM, he should have an answer for you after he finishes doing touch and goes in the space shuttle.

OK that was my first and last TM joke - I couldn't help myself.

Waldo11 04-09-2010 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 792791)
The title of the thread is misleading in any case.
Makes it sound like whatever took place was intentional.
I highly doubt there was anything intentional about any act - on either part.

Fairly unusual to see tactical aircraft cruising in the FLs in any case since I doubt they are RVSM equipped.
Did this incident happen near any SUAS?

Can any present/past F-16 pilots shine any light on this? Is there any Block that is so equipped?

USMCFLYR

Pretty sure no blocks are RVSM (I'm in the block 30's and we def aren't) capable. But you can still request and most times get approved up into the RVSM flight levels. But like the previous poster, maybe TM has better intel then I do...

ChipChelios 04-09-2010 02:26 PM

It WAS TM. He was flying both F16's. He has the ability to bend time and space so he can go back and critique his own maneuvers.

Slice 04-09-2010 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by ChipChelios (Post 792847)
It WAS TM. He was flying both F16's. He has the ability to bend time and space so he can go back and critique his own maneuvers.

Nice avatar. I see your schwartz is as big as mine...:D

USMCFLYR 04-09-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Waldo11 (Post 792817)
Pretty sure no blocks are RVSM (I'm in the block 30's and we def aren't) capable. But you can still request and most times get approved up into the RVSM flight levels. But like the previous poster, maybe TM has better intel then I do...

The Super Hornets were recently certified I heard, but the Legacies weren't and probably never will be - so I didn't think that any F-16s would be either.
Yes - I knew you could request it, and be granted permission, which is why I said "fairly uncommon". I decided to not bet on it and just flight plan in at FL 270/280. The juice wasn't always worth the squeeze to get into the mid-to high 30s and then possibly be brought right back down again.

This would be interesting to hear more details of the incident.

USMCFLYR


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