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Originally Posted by Utah
(Post 795973)
Wasn't there a regional wanting to raise new hire pay back around 2007, but the union said no because they wanted pay raises across the board instead of just year one? ASA or Pinnacle?
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 796837)
Here's a plan for you - after 5 years of negotiations all the pilots go on strike. Cripple one of the largest major airlines by shutting down their second busiest hub. Vote down the first two TAs. Stay on strike for 89 days. Work at Home Depot when you aren't on the picket line. Watch your major partner bleed through $600 million to avoid paying an extra $23 million in annual pilot wages. Then sign an industry-leading contract for pay and work rules.
Then watch as your major partner shrinks, dismantles, and gives away your organization to the lowest bidders. Watch 6 other regionals come in to work your hub while you furlough hundreds and park half your fleet. In the future? That depends on who wants to be the next Comair. |
Right now pilots are overpaid!
Why? Because there are more pilots looking for work than there are jobs. Demand for labor is low and supply of labor is high. The result is wages can decrease and airlines can still staff their flights. The best hope for regional pilots is the 1500 hour total time bill passes congress. I'd expect to see some a slight rise in pay at the lower end of the spectrum (1st and 2nd year FO pay at regionals) due to the new law in a few years when the economy recovers. Without the law, I'd say $22 an hour is too high! |
Plan for higher payscales?
Yes. Right now Mesa, Trans States, Comair, Republic, Pinnicle, Skywest and GOJets are in intense talks for higher pilot payscales. Yes, this is the plan. If you believe this, then please PM me for a great deal on Confederate money. |
Originally Posted by asims33
(Post 794986)
I am biased because im a pilot but not many people can take 50 thousand pounds and grease it onto a 75-foot wide slab of concrete going 180+ MPH with 60-90 people behind em. Thats just my 2 cents.
The glut of pilots that has always existed would be evidence to the contrary. For the most part a trained monkey can do what we do but unfortunately most pilots have the same mentality of said monkey......quite literally will fly for food. |
Originally Posted by saabslime
(Post 797483)
The glut of pilots that has always existed would be evidence to the contrary.
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Originally Posted by Utah
(Post 795973)
Wasn't there a regional wanting to raise new hire pay back around 2007, but the union said no because they wanted pay raises across the board instead of just year one? ASA or Pinnacle?
His line of reasoning "If there is money to go around why should just the new hires get it." |
So all you people need to stop blaming your company for everything. Eagle tried to raise pay for new hires as well as second year FOs. Senior capts wouldn't have it. Like I've said, your union creates the payscale, not the company. They just tell the union how much they're willing to spend on the pilot group overall, the union slices the pie.
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Originally Posted by CANAM
(Post 796938)
Plan for higher payscales?
Yes. Right now Mesa, Trans States, Comair, Republic, Pinnicle, Skywest and GOJets are in intense talks for higher pilot payscales. Yes, this is the plan. If you believe this, then please PM me for a great deal on Confederate money. |
Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
(Post 797651)
Yes awesome!!! I knew it was only a matter of time before we were all rich. Where are you going to buy your second home?
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