I'm pretty sure my friends at MidWest would have a hard time agreeing with you...

CONGRATS!!!!!! I hope to see you there soon as well. By any chance did you happen to keep updating your info on the application or have you not moved or changed numbers since then? I have moved twice (long story) and changed Home numbers twice but my cell number has been the same so I'm wondering if that's why I haven't received a call. Thanks for the info and congrats again! Also see below.....


Can I ask what the last initials are of both you (Right Seat Dude) and the CFI are? I'm wondering if they are calling alphabetically? Thanks again.

I just talked with a CFI buddy of mine that will be in the class too. He was part of the "hired for 3-days" crowd a few years ago as well.

He and two other guys I know all got the call. One accepted and the other two declined.

The door is slowly, slowly reopening...

It's the real deal, and I think it says a lot about what kind of company Republic is.

And to all the naysayers and whiners, commence flaming and attacking at will. :D[/quote]

I don't intend to "naysay" or "whine", but the kind of thinking displayed above will burn you at some point in the future. One quick glance at how upper management at RAH has handled their latest acquisitions, most notably Midwest, will absolutely prove that they don't give a dam- about you or anyone else that works for them. There are other examples out there (100 seat pay, etc.) but you hopefully get the picture.

P.S. I don't mean to rain on your parade. I'm glad that you're finally getting back to a job you enjoy.

did they even attempt to call back their furloughs??......I work with a furloughed guy from republic and he has not been called.....

I guess what confuses me is how they can run a new hire class with pilots on furlough? Doesn't the contract require pilots to be recalled in seniority order?

Not true..every single furloughed pilot has been called back. If they are elsewhere it's because they've either bypassed or they've moved/changed contact info. and the company was not able to get in touch with them.

In regards to the to-be-integrated furloughs, they will all be offered spots where they can hold one.

Yep, there's always one in every crowd. Way to be a 5%'er

Yo are mistaken...they have all been called back, some have by-passed...but all have been called.

I do not know the meaning of your comment; p13@s3 d0 e1@b0r@te and spell it out kind sir.

Stepping stone? If you think any major airline hiring boards will be accepting Republic pilots after the way they've acted throughout the whole mess in the last year, you're sadly mistaken.

Hah ! Dream on ! Like it or not-they don't care !

They don't care.

More care than you'd like to think... They care.

There are plenty of Mesa scumbags (A-listers) that got on with every major airline you can think of. Some guys get lucky and the hiring board doesn't care, and others have good connections that sway the hiring boards decision.

Either way, dirt bags get hired. Not saying its right (because it isn't), but it is the reality of the situation. There are guys I wouldn't let buy my dinner that are working at Delta, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Virgin and SWA.

Makes no sense to me.

How have we acted? We certainly haven't acted as poorly as you and all your Eastie buddies who agreed to BINDING arbitration and subsequently flew off the handle because you didn't like the result. Yeah okay. Keep lecturing us on how to conduct ourselves honorably.:rolleyes: All we've done is continue to report to work. The same as all of you would have done and have done in past mergers and purchases. Nobody likes this new paradigm and what it means for all of our futures, especially us. Plenty of us will move on when the opportunity presents itself.

Roughly half the employed pilots in this country are flying for "regionals" or feeders, or "majors" if you prefer. This means that there will be few opportunities to jump up to a major anytime soon. Not from a regional right seat. In the "old" days, the feeders had roughly 25% of the flying mainline had, therefore there were more mainline jobs and almost anyone who wanted could go at some point in their career. Not so today. And even if you do make it, look at the number of furloughs, bankruptcies, and liquidations. Get caught in one of those and it hurts.

That is not being negative. That is our industry at the moment. I had a UPS interview in 2007. I didn't get the job. Whatever reason they do not say. The human resources guy actually congratulated me for getting an interview because he had "8000 resumes and applications" and I was one of 400 interviews that year. Why would he be that smug? Because he could. And all those fine pilots that left good jobs for UPS in 2007? They are facing furlough in a couple of months. And UPS is not even losing money.

Try to make your present company better. You may be there longer than you think. I actually tried to be cautious and select a job I would truly enjoy and was secure. I was at my "regional" for 9 years because of it. 3 years after leaving I am furloughed. Sometimes all the planning in this industry still is not as valuable as dumb luck.

Care to elaborate on that one, O Mighty Burninator?

Really? I know of at least one RAH guay who is in class for Airtran. I know of a GoJet(one of the first one there) pilot at UPS. So, take you leaking theories and plug them up.

That's not true, it's nowhere near half. Just AA pilots and another legacy or two account for all of the regional pilots flying today.

And why would they be leaving? They're mainline now. What's the point of going to Airtran when you're going to be flying mainline aircraft at RAH and have big seniority at the same time.

Wow, way to turn this into another RAH bashing post. Get a life.

We are all just trying to make a living doing what we love to do. If we vote in a sub-par contract when it comes time, then let the name-calling begin. Most of us were not even here when the last one was negotiated, and the ones that were here did not expect this airline to grow as it has.

Yes, this has worked in management's favor--but i can all but guarantee that the next contract will not have FO's maxing out at $37 and hour. That is what I am making now and it is an insult. Then again, I still plan on getting out of here as soon as i can...this place will ALWAYS have the regional mentality--anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

I have to agree. While I'm not a RAH employee, I have to say that your airline is morphing into a very sizable entity. I would hope that since you've become a stand alone airline you'd want to achieve a contract similar to other stand alone airlines....or better. How about those JetBlue rates?

The very problem with regional airline pay is that pilots use the company with no mindset of staying. In my opinion, when pilots give an airline a reason to justify that training is cheaper than paying for longevity and experience, there's a problem.

In return the airline justifies the poor working conditions and pay based on a carrot that there'll be more opportunities. At who's expense?

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If it does come to a strike vote with our next contract--I will not hesitate to walk out. Unfortunately, we have a sizeable group of senior captains here (making a little over or around 100K), that I think will not compromise their income with a strike vote.

I may be an FO making a pathetic wage here, but I won't hesitate for a second to strike in hopes of improving this profession for future generations. If it is not JetBlue or better (which is unlikely), I will vote it down in a heartbeat. I have nothing to lose.

I hate what this company has done with Midwest. Those pilots have every reason to be ****ed off. If i were them it would take a lot of restraint not to smart off to our crewmembers when they see us. Management uses us as a disposable source of labor and while it will never completely stop, we cant sell each other down the river.

Sorry to get off the original topic here...

So back to topic. Is there a SA class tomorrow or not? If as previously advertised on here that there was suppose to be 27 Midwest pilots in these two classes, when is Republic going to notify them? At the first coffee break tomorrow?

CHQ class starts Saturday...

Confused?
 

I started at RAH before the Republic type certificate on the E-170 in May 2004ish. We finished ground school in PIT but never went to the sim and were "let go." Upon starting up again in August under the CHQ certificate I still retained my DOH of May 2004. Wouldn't past precident apply and mean you had a DOH of when you first started training and not start you over again? I didn't even have to do the $150/week training again and my pay raises were all based on the May 2004 training. Not trying to stur a pot. This is just what happened to us. Even the reverand agreed we needed to be kept on the seniority list where we were. An email was sent out by the union explaining why the 3 of us reappeared on the seniority list with the date we had.

Hope this helps you get at least some more $$ out of those bloodsucking turnips in the RAH executive suites.

-T

Please quit trolling. Why the heck would you come on here asking if pilots at Republic know if Midwest pilots are going to notified about an upcoming class date? Getting really old.

I just sent my stuff in to TWA... I REALLY hope they call.