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RightSeatDude 04-22-2010 09:06 AM

Shuttle America April 29th Class
 
I just got a phone call asking me if I want to go to the April 29 Shuttle America class. I accepted, of course. I've been out of the business for two years. Just had my biennial VFR check and IFR proficiency check, squeaking through both of them.

My plan is to spend about 5 hours in an FTD I have access to shooting approaches, studying my regs and going through Gleim commercial, instrument and ATP tests. With regards to Gleim, my plan is to make sure I not only get the answers correct, but understand why they are correct. I will also go through the Flight Ops manual from ExpressJet (my last employer), and go through all the 121 regs there.

I have nearly 1,100 hours SIC in the ERJ-145, so am planning to go through the 145 systems lightly, knowing I'll be learning a new but similar aircraft.

I want to be the best I can possibly be, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone has to my plan on getting ready for class. Suggestions pertaining to all of it, but especially with regards to E-170 systems and callouts would be especially appreciated.

WeaselBoy 04-22-2010 09:22 AM

Are you furloughed RAH?

StrikeTime 04-22-2010 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799969)
I just got a phone call asking me if I want to go to the April 29 Shuttle America class. I accepted, of course. I've been out of the business for two years. Just had my biennial VFR check and IFR proficiency check, squeaking through both of them.

My plan is to spend about 5 hours in an FTD I have access to shooting approaches, studying my regs and going through Gleim commercial, instrument and ATP tests. With regards to Gleim, my plan is to make sure I not only get the answers correct, but understand why they are correct. I will also go through the Flight Ops manual from ExpressJet (my last employer), and go through all the 121 regs there.

I have nearly 1,100 hours SIC in the ERJ-145, so am planning to go through the 145 systems lightly, knowing I'll be learning a new but similar aircraft.

I want to be the best I can possibly be, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone has to my plan on getting ready for class. Suggestions pertaining to all of it, but especially with regards to E-170 systems and callouts would be especially appreciated.

Read up on Midwest Airlines, whipsaw, and various union busting techniques... Than you should be set.

RightSeatDude 04-22-2010 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by WeaselBoy (Post 799979)
Are you furloughed RAH?

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No, I'm not. I was in the last new hire class two years ago. Right around that time, they lost the Frontier contract. On day 3, 60 of us got sent home

Tiger2Flying 04-22-2010 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799985)
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No, I'm not. I was in the last new hire class two years ago. Right around that time, they lost the Frontier contract. On day 3, 60 of us got sent home

Was that the class in April? Any word on what they are doing with the rest of the guys that were in the hiring pool at the time?

RightSeatDude 04-22-2010 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tiger2Flying (Post 800035)
Was that the class in April? Any word on what they are doing with the rest of the guys that were in the hiring pool at the time?

Yeah, that was the April 21 (I think) class. There were about 60 of us let go. Haven't heard anything about anyone else. I know there's also a May 1 class, not sure which of their other companies it is.

Tiger2Flying 04-22-2010 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 800036)
Yeah, that was the April 21 (I think) class. There were about 60 of us let go. Haven't heard anything about anyone else. I know there's also a May 1 class, not sure which of their other companies it is.

I just might have to give them a call and see what's going on.

ComairFO 04-22-2010 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799969)
I just got a phone call asking me if I want to go to the April 29 Shuttle America class. I accepted, of course. I've been out of the business for two years. Just had my biennial VFR check and IFR proficiency check, squeaking through both of them.

My plan is to spend about 5 hours in an FTD I have access to shooting approaches, studying my regs and going through Gleim commercial, instrument and ATP tests. With regards to Gleim, my plan is to make sure I not only get the answers correct, but understand why they are correct. I will also go through the Flight Ops manual from ExpressJet (my last employer), and go through all the 121 regs there.

I have nearly 1,100 hours SIC in the ERJ-145, so am planning to go through the 145 systems lightly, knowing I'll be learning a new but similar aircraft.

I want to be the best I can possibly be, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone has to my plan on getting ready for class. Suggestions pertaining to all of it, but especially with regards to E-170 systems and callouts would be especially appreciated.

Is this for real??? It sounds like you've got it all figured out, so why are you asking us?

ComairFO 04-22-2010 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by StrikeTime (Post 799982)
Read up on Midwest Airlines, whipsaw, and various union busting techniques... Than you should be set.

You beat me to it.....

AirWillie 04-22-2010 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799969)
I just got a phone call asking me if I want to go to the April 29 Shuttle America class. I accepted, of course. I've been out of the business for two years. Just had my biennial VFR check and IFR proficiency check, squeaking through both of them.

My plan is to spend about 5 hours in an FTD I have access to shooting approaches, studying my regs and going through Gleim commercial, instrument and ATP tests. With regards to Gleim, my plan is to make sure I not only get the answers correct, but understand why they are correct. I will also go through the Flight Ops manual from ExpressJet (my last employer), and go through all the 121 regs there.

I have nearly 1,100 hours SIC in the ERJ-145, so am planning to go through the 145 systems lightly, knowing I'll be learning a new but similar aircraft.

I want to be the best I can possibly be, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone has to my plan on getting ready for class. Suggestions pertaining to all of it, but especially with regards to E-170 systems and callouts would be especially appreciated.

Looking at the E-170 posters at FS, there seemed to be more AUTO buttons on the E170 overhead than on the ERJ, if you thought that was possible. Sounds like you should be ready, must be nice to go from 0 to class just like that. Congrats! Good thing to know there's movement out there.

KiloAlpha 04-22-2010 12:01 PM

It is primarily a DC airplane, not that anyone probably cares...

cfitstew 04-22-2010 12:23 PM

Here's what you need....250 Knots, 12 o'clock / no lights and if it's guarded or dusty don't touch it. Enjoy.

benairguitar23 04-22-2010 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799969)
I just got a phone call asking me if I want to go to the April 29 Shuttle America class. I accepted, of course. I've been out of the business for two years. Just had my biennial VFR check and IFR proficiency check, squeaking through both of them.

My plan is to spend about 5 hours in an FTD I have access to shooting approaches, studying my regs and going through Gleim commercial, instrument and ATP tests. With regards to Gleim, my plan is to make sure I not only get the answers correct, but understand why they are correct. I will also go through the Flight Ops manual from ExpressJet (my last employer), and go through all the 121 regs there.

I have nearly 1,100 hours SIC in the ERJ-145, so am planning to go through the 145 systems lightly, knowing I'll be learning a new but similar aircraft.

I want to be the best I can possibly be, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone has to my plan on getting ready for class. Suggestions pertaining to all of it, but especially with regards to E-170 systems and callouts would be especially appreciated.


I too was in that class, did you do anything special for them to give you a call? Like call or e-mail someone? I am already way above ATP mins which is what they require now so I'm wondering why I haven't received a call yet? Let me know what you did so I can try the same thing. Thanks.

SpeedyVagabond 04-22-2010 12:52 PM

Don't waste your time reviewing 145 systems. Spend it instead doing the things you love to do because soon, as a bottom reserve guy, you won't be able to do them as much as you would like. Work hard in ground school and you should be fine. And please disregard all the bitter-soul wankers who have posted and the ones who are sure to come. There seems to be a disproportionately high number of these types in the airlines.:rolleyes:

SVA402 04-22-2010 01:15 PM

I would also say don't waste your time with 145 systems. Flown both, and they are way different. You will get more systems in class than you ever wanted anyways.

RightSeatDude 04-22-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by benairguitar23 (Post 800112)
I too was in that class, did you do anything special for them to give you a call? Like call or e-mail someone? I am already way above ATP mins which is what they require now so I'm wondering why I haven't received a call yet? Let me know what you did so I can try the same thing. Thanks.

All I did was answer the phone. I have no idea what the logic or system was to it, I'm just extremely grateful to have gotten the call. Hope to see you there soon.

RightSeatDude 04-22-2010 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 800120)
Don't waste your time reviewing 145 systems. Spend it instead doing the things you love to do because soon, as a bottom reserve guy, you won't be able to do them as much as you would like. Work hard in ground school and you should be fine. And please disregard all the bitter-soul wankers who have posted and the ones who are sure to come. There seems to be a disproportionately high number of these types in the airlines.:rolleyes:

Yeah, I was gonna say something to the whiners, but then I figured why bother. I'm just grateful to have the opportunity and will continue to leave the whining to others. :)

freezingflyboy 04-22-2010 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799969)
I just got a phone call asking me if I want to go to the April 29 Shuttle America class. I accepted, of course. I've been out of the business for two years. Just had my biennial VFR check and IFR proficiency check, squeaking through both of them.

My plan is to spend about 5 hours in an FTD I have access to shooting approaches, studying my regs and going through Gleim commercial, instrument and ATP tests. With regards to Gleim, my plan is to make sure I not only get the answers correct, but understand why they are correct. I will also go through the Flight Ops manual from ExpressJet (my last employer), and go through all the 121 regs there.

I have nearly 1,100 hours SIC in the ERJ-145, so am planning to go through the 145 systems lightly, knowing I'll be learning a new but similar aircraft.

I want to be the best I can possibly be, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone has to my plan on getting ready for class. Suggestions pertaining to all of it, but especially with regards to E-170 systems and callouts would be especially appreciated.

Weren't you supposed to give that back when you left?

RightSeatDude 04-22-2010 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 800329)
Weren't you supposed to give that back when you left?

They never asked, I would have gladly given it or shipped it to them upon request.

AirWillie 04-22-2010 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 800332)
They never asked, I would have gladly given it or shipped it to them upon request.


The FBI will be at your house in 3, 2, 1.....

The Juice 04-22-2010 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 800290)
Yeah, I was gonna say something to the whiners, but then I figured why bother. I'm just grateful to have the opportunity and will continue to leave the whining to others. :)

I never understood why people are so grateful to work for a regional airline

captain152 04-22-2010 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 800418)
I never understood why people are so grateful to work for a regional airline

I'm not saying I'm grateful by any means ... but I'm thankful to have a stepping stone to the majors ... hopefully ... :rolleyes:

RAH RAH REE 04-22-2010 10:21 PM

Republic is now a major, welcome!

*ducks*

Flyboy7242 04-22-2010 10:49 PM

HAHA I have 2000 hrs of heavy jet time, bachelor's degree and still having trouble getting into a major. Good luck in the 170.

KiloAlpha 04-23-2010 01:58 AM


I have 2000 hrs of heavy jet time, bachelor's degree and still having trouble getting into a major. Good luck in the 170.
Lots of people working at majors w/o heavy jet time. If people with lowly turbo prop time can get hired


I never understood why people are so grateful to work for a regional airline
At one point we were all pretty happy to be hired by a regional/first turbine operation. Perhaps your memory is either fading or skewed by your constant negativity.

gtech88 04-23-2010 03:39 AM

You've been on the street for two years, not working in the industry, haven't been asked to update a resume or come in for a re-interview. and class starts next week. I really do wish you the best, but are you sure one of your buddy's isn't messing with you?

rdneckpilot 04-23-2010 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by gtech88 (Post 800453)
You've been on the street for two years, not working in the industry, haven't been asked to update a resume or come in for a re-interview. and class starts next week. I really do wish you the best, but are you sure one of your buddy's isn't messing with you?

I was thinking the same thing...but I'm accused of being a negative half glass empty kind of guy and didn't want to say anything.

snippercr 04-23-2010 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 799985)
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No, I'm not. I was in the last new hire class two years ago. Right around that time, they lost the Frontier contract. On day 3, 60 of us got sent home

One of my co-workers (CFI) was in that class. He just got his call yesterday too which shocked everyone.

Flyboy7242 04-23-2010 04:37 AM

I will agree.

Flyboy7242 04-23-2010 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 800457)
One of my co-workers (CFI) was in that class. He just got his call yesterday too which shocked everyone.

Everybody was happy to work at the regionals at one point in their career, I was. We all move on to greener pastures, there is nothing wrong with that.

EVpilot 04-23-2010 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 800418)
I never understood why people are so grateful to work for a regional airline

Maybe they are just grateful to have a job right now. I've had other jobs. I was a paramedic for quite a few years so I am definitely grateful for my regional airline job. Wish I was at mainline but those jobs are kinda scarce right now.

LAXSAAB 04-23-2010 06:04 AM

No need to worry about learning the 170, since FSI does a descent job preparing you for the checkride. The hardest part will probably be getting use to the automation. So are you being hired as a new hire, or a returning furlough?

RightSeatDude 04-23-2010 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by LAXSAAB (Post 800519)
No need to worry about learning the 170, since FSI does a descent job preparing you for the checkride. The hardest part will probably be getting use to the automation. So are you being hired as a new hire, or a returning furlough?

I believe we're classified as new hires, as we weren't given seniority numbers when we were let go. I have almost 1,100 SIC on the 145. Is the automation similar to that?

The Juice 04-23-2010 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 800445)
Lots of people working at majors w/o heavy jet time. If people with lowly turbo prop time can get hired



At one point we were all pretty happy to be hired by a regional/first turbine operation. Perhaps your memory is either fading or skewed by your constant negativity.

It must be because I am a "lowly turbo prop" pilot. If I flew the cool 170 like you maybe I would be all smiles.

RightSeatDude 04-23-2010 01:03 PM

If it's a buddy messing with me, he's hacked into Republic's email system and is faking caller IDs with coinciding voice messages and callback numbers. He also has two women in on the conspiracy, coordinating my PRIA paperwork.

I can appreciate your instincts. However, when we were let go two years ago, it was clear the people there felt badly about the situation. Even though they didn't have to, they gave us two weeks' pay for three days of our time and what I believe were sincere apologies for a situation they hadn't foreseen. They told us we would be given priority. And despite drastic changes in the job marketplace, they've kept their word. Frankly, it would have been reasonable for them to forget any intentions they had at the time, given the change in job marketplace. In fact, it seems to me they've gone above and beyond. Sadly, this is rare enough a thing in our current world that it's reasonable to wonder whether or not a buddy is playing a trick on me.

It's the real deal, and I think it says a lot about what kind of company Republic is.

And to all the naysayers and whiners, commence flaming and attacking at will. :D


Originally Posted by gtech88 (Post 800453)
You've been on the street for two years, not working in the industry, haven't been asked to update a resume or come in for a re-interview. and class starts next week. I really do wish you the best, but are you sure one of your buddy's isn't messing with you?


RightSeatDude 04-23-2010 01:04 PM

What's wrong with flying a "lowly" turboprop?


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 800723)
It must be because I am a "lowly turbo prop" pilot. If I flew the cool 170 like you maybe I would be all smiles.


The Juice 04-23-2010 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 800725)
What's wrong with flying a "lowly" turboprop?

Nothing, I think Kilo forgets where he came from at time.

minimwage4 04-23-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 800445)



At one point we were all pretty happy to be hired by a regional/first turbine operation. Perhaps your memory is either fading or skewed by your constant negativity.

The only negativity out of him is that he's a cheerleader for his bottom feeding airline. Would probably fly for 5 dollars an hour if called by chuck.

RightSeatDude 04-23-2010 01:27 PM

Gotcha. I misunderstood. My bad. I happen to be a big fan of lowly turboprop pilots. When I was on the ERJ, the best captains I flew with were almost without exception former turboprop pilots.

My props to all you turboprop guys- pun intended. :D


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 800726)
Nothing, I think Kilo forgets where he came from at time.


The Juice 04-23-2010 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 800739)
The only negativity out of him is that he's a cheerleader for his bottom feeding airline. Would probably fly for 5 dollars an hour if called by chuck.

$5 an hour?? If Chuck called me I would do it for $4 as long as I get to undercut someone:rolleyes:

(Sarcasm intended)

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