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Blueskies21 04-29-2010 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT (Post 803565)
From my understanding, legally, a letter from your new employer saying you resign your seniority number does not hold true in court. Your previous employer is not obligated to follow. At least, this is what a lawyer friend says. Same guy who mentioned if it happens to call him and he'll take it to court.

I know of no fewer than 5 guys who resigned previous numbers when forced to by Mesaba, 2 of those would have now been recalled had those resignations not been honored. I agree that the resignation is under duress but I don't think it matters if it loses you your number. Maybe you could get it back in court, but I don't know of anyone that has, and I know several people that resigned numbers only to get furloughed again. Court sounds good, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If you resign it, don't expect to go back.

boilerpilot 04-29-2010 01:57 PM

There are people who have gotten their numbers back in court, but people usually don't follow through that far. Any major? Sure, but like it or not, suing and dealing with the whole court system just to get your (actual) furlough fodder seniority back at your old regional just isn't practical.

Blueskies21 04-29-2010 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by boilerpilot (Post 803669)
There are people who have gotten their numbers back in court, but people usually don't follow through that far. Any major? Sure, but like it or not, suing and dealing with the whole court system just to get your (actual) furlough fodder seniority back at your old regional just isn't practical.

I've heard this statement alot, I did a little searching and I haven't precedent case of that.(Though I agree it's a commonly held belief) Perhaps someone with more legal ability than me can point one out?

cfiguy11 04-29-2010 04:29 PM

a little off topic but does anyone know if training contracts are legally enforceable? I've heard both ways and just wanted to see your input

FlyJSH 04-29-2010 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by cfiguy11 (Post 803755)
a little off topic but does anyone know if training contracts are legally enforceable? I've heard both ways and just wanted to see your input

If you aren't sure you want to work for a company for one year, I suggest you go elsewhere.

hockeypilot44 04-29-2010 08:07 PM

Disregard.

cfiguy11 04-29-2010 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 803775)
If you aren't sure you want to work for a company for one year, I suggest you go elsewhere.


thanks for the response. that was exactly what i was looking for

FlyJSH 04-30-2010 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 803775)
If you aren't sure you want to work for a company for one year, I suggest you go elsewhere.


Originally Posted by cfiguy11 (Post 803892)
thanks for the response. that was exactly what i was looking for

And that is true for ANY company.

But those of us at Colgan who are trying to push for improved work rules, it is especially true. We need people who are willing to fight.

frmrdashtrash 04-30-2010 04:20 AM

Everything I've read says training contracts aren't enforceable if the training is required for your job description. Aircraft training would fit in that category.

Don't hold that as gospel, I didn't look this up, and don't plan on doing so.

RPCV 04-30-2010 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by cfiguy11 (Post 803755)
a little off topic but does anyone know if training contracts are legally enforceable? I've heard both ways and just wanted to see your input

Does Colgan still have a training contract? I thought they did away with it.


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