GOJETS and EXPRESSJET
 

Anyone who knows if working for GOJETS puts you on some sort of black list??

Other question: ExpressJet is still hiring like maniacs. Is there any update on what's going with the 69 jets??

I'm just trying to find out if both these airlines are a dead end.

THX>

Blacklist
 

Although there probably is not a blacklist,(might be someplace at TSA) you would be wise to stay away from BloJets.

With such a horrible reputation and with so many other "quality" regionals hiring, why chance it. Some day you will be interviewing and somebody is going to know you worked at BJ and you my not get offered that job.

There should be a list, there should be people who are held to account for what they have done to this profession. Yes, managemnet holds a lot of the blame, but it is our fellow pilots who work for crap wages that screw us all.

I think XJets is having their share of problems with mgt. but from what I know..they are not scabs..just strugling pilots like the rest of us.

And by the way..if there is a choice between a BJ or Freedom guy asking for the jump seat in my plane and ANY another pilot..who do you think we leave on the ramp.

Yes, there is a list. It is not officially part of the master scab list, but plenty of folks will carry it around with them forevever and you might run into one of those people when you need a jumpseat or job someday.

Like mushroom said, plenty of regionals are hiring.

Whats this supposed to mean? You're not talking about ExpressJet are you? I think we have one of the best managements in the regional industry. And I have NEVER heard of an ExpressJet pilot being accused of being a scab.

I work for Mesa and when trying to jumpseat I get asked all of the time if I work at Freedom, which is Bull****** because freedom is and has been ALPA for quite sometime. I would imagine working for Blojet is going to cause you serious problems for the long run and probrably impossible to commute.

X-jet is top class I don't know when the mushroom guy was talking about.

Expressjet all the way. One of the better if not best regional. Gayjet on the other hand... Hell Nah!

How would they know if you worked at Freedom? Unless you are dumb enough to admit it. GoJet is by no means a dead end, I guarantee you a lot of those guys have sights on jobs other than pax flying. Int/Corp/Charter/Fractional community don't really care much what happens on the pax side. If you are willing to go through a little discrimination, then go for it. Gojet is said to have major growth and short upgrade times, just don't expect much when you look at other airlines for jobs.

Carry the F.A.G. list with you and distribute as needed.

Not accusing anyone of being a scab.

XJets is looking for more flying and better pay ...just like the rest of us. That's what I was implying.

But we also have a mangement that respects the pilot group. When Big CAL wanted us to do the job but do it cheaper, management could have bent right over and come looking for concessions like they do at so many other companies. Instead, XJT told CAL to go fornicate with themselves and started diversifying their operation to ensure profitability. I can't think of too many other regional managements who would do the same.

Now I'm not saying that there aren't the usual gripes about schedules, time off, benefits, bonehead policies, etc. but you will find that at any company. I think its a tendency of pilots not to be content but to always be seaking better.

Yes. For all you newbies be advised that these lists are real. Mine are laminated...they will last a looong time. :mad:

I wouldn't confuse that respect from management with the fact that ream doesn't get along with CAL management. Is he still offering to help pilots back their stuff when they leave. That one was classic.

Is expressjet still not allowing gojets a ride in the jumpseat or did that go by the wayside?

As long as GoJets is CASS (which it doesn't look like they are) then they have a shot at the jumpseat. Now wether they get on or not, that is up to the Captain. To the best of my knowledge there was no directive from management specifically barring GoJets from the jumpseat.

And as far as Jim Ream offering to pack stuff, I have never heard that. But anyone who stands up for their company and their employees when their mainline partner wants to whipsaw them is alright in my book. I'd rather see him poke CAL in the eye than bend over for Larry.

I'm guessing you haven't been their that long because your old MEC told it's pilots to politely tell GoJet pilots that they weren't allowed to jumpseat on expressjet. I guess that didn't last too long. That's sad because I thought at least one carrier out their had the guts not to help out the gojets pilots.

Ream did offer to help pack up. It was a few years ago. I'm glad that he is trying to stick it to CAL but he will stick it to you guys too if push comes to shove. Good luck with the future flying, I hope that you can keep those 69 airplanes flying.

You're right, Im still fairly new. But I have flown with some captains that didn't have a clue about GoJets and some that were very passionately against them. One thing I can tell you for sure, after talking to a few TSA guys, I will NEVER let someone from GoJets on my jumpseat. Yeah, I'll feel bad for em because I know how hard it can be to get to work sometimes but if you are walking around the terminal with your ID badge turned around or you are sneaking through bag system to avoid going through the terminal, you know you did a bad thing. I wouldn't be a d!ck about it, just politely and professionally tell them I didn't want them on my jumpseat. If they gave me a real hard luck case maybe I would charge them $100 and then donate that to ALPA's strike fund or emergency assistance fund...

Like I said in another post, the latest rumors I have heard is that they have found homes for all but 15 of the airplanes. The corporate flying is a done deal. A pay override and schedule system has been divised and the mod kits are sitting in maintenance. Im not sure what the rest of the airplanes will be doing but we keep hearing September as the date of some big announcement. To be honest, I am not worried about it. We will still have 205 planes in the CAL system which is one hell of an income stream. IN addition, XJT holdings has its hands in MANY different pots. If they want to park the remaining airplanes in the desert, thats fine with me. If they pay me my gurantee, Ill go sit out in the desert with em and keep CHQ's grubby mits off:D