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Old 06-08-2010 | 02:12 AM
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Okay folks,

73 hour lines with 10-12 days off. Two FO reserve lines in Houston. What a joke! Everybody is busting bu##, yet all we get is a memo saying WE need to buckle down more!

So we are SERIOUSLY short of pilots, especially FOs. BK even did a test flight in Houston today.

So.....

NOW IS THE TIME to push for all we can get. I was on my eighth day of nine (due to carry over from last month and new month line) and have gotten TWO calls to pick up open time in the last FIVE HOURS. This after picking up a turn while demanding and getting double draft pay!

IF you choose to pick up open time, DEMAND double draft pay PLUS the 150% and anything else you can think of (extra day off, dropping a trip, or whatever you would want).

We got 'em by the short hairs!!! Now is the time to pull it 'till it HURTS!
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Old 06-08-2010 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Okay folks,

73 hour lines with 10-12 days off. Two FO reserve lines in Houston. What a joke! Everybody is busting bu##, yet all we get is a memo saying WE need to buckle down more!

So we are SERIOUSLY short of pilots, especially FOs. BK even did a test flight in Houston today.

So.....

NOW IS THE TIME to push for all we can get. I was on my eighth day of nine (due to carry over from last month and new month line) and have gotten TWO calls to pick up open time in the last FIVE HOURS. This after picking up a turn while demanding and getting double draft pay!

IF you choose to pick up open time, DEMAND double draft pay PLUS the 150% and anything else you can think of (extra day off, dropping a trip, or whatever you would want).

We got 'em by the short hairs!!! Now is the time to pull it 'till it HURTS!
How's the contract coming along?
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Old 06-08-2010 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Okay folks,

73 hour lines with 10-12 days off. Two FO reserve lines in Houston. What a joke! Everybody is busting bu##, yet all we get is a memo saying WE need to buckle down more!

So we are SERIOUSLY short of pilots, especially FOs. BK even did a test flight in Houston today.

So.....

NOW IS THE TIME to push for all we can get. I was on my eighth day of nine (due to carry over from last month and new month line) and have gotten TWO calls to pick up open time in the last FIVE HOURS. This after picking up a turn while demanding and getting double draft pay!

IF you choose to pick up open time, DEMAND double draft pay PLUS the 150% and anything else you can think of (extra day off, dropping a trip, or whatever you would want).

We got 'em by the short hairs!!! Now is the time to pull it 'till it HURTS!
Haha get used to it. I have a buddy over at Pinnacle on reserve and it seems like he's at work every single day. Thats just how they do things over there, if they're not canceling flights due to no pilots, they're overstaffed.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 06:40 AM
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I was on my eighth day of nine (due to carry over from last month and new month line)


I hope you saw 24hr off in there. End of the month has nothing to do with 24/7, it's a rolling 7 day period. Colgan crew services WILL turn you in to the feds after you do this.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 07:21 AM
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Okay folks,

73 hour lines with 10-12 days off. Two FO reserve lines in Houston. What a joke! Everybody is busting bu##, yet all we get is a memo saying WE need to buckle down more!

not sure i understand what you are getting at here. are you saying 73 hours is a lot of flying or are you saying 73 hours with 12 days off isnt efficient?
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Old 06-08-2010 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
This after picking up a turn while demanding and getting double draft pay!

IF you choose to pick up open time, DEMAND double draft pay PLUS the 150% and anything else you can think of (extra day off, dropping a trip, or whatever you would want).

We got 'em by the short hairs!!! Now is the time to pull it 'till it HURTS!
Hey, STOP picking up flying! Its cheaper to pay you some overtime rather than hire a pilot. You are subsidizing managements decision to understaff and thus taking away someone else's potential job.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBigAir
Hey, STOP picking up flying! Its cheaper to pay you some overtime rather than hire a pilot. You are subsidizing managements decision to understaff and thus taking away someone else's potential job.
Seconded. Pick up a hobby or take trip somewhere. Seems good now but dont be suprised if one day, the burnt out feeling shows up out of nowhere.

Demands are really 'demands' when its pretty much assumed youll get what you want.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBigAir
Hey, STOP picking up flying! Its cheaper to pay you some overtime rather than hire a pilot. You are subsidizing managements decision to understaff and thus taking away someone else's potential job.

I dont pick up time. I have been under guarantee for months (the farther under the better). This month I started at 75 hrs. In this case, I actually traded a 4 hour event for a 2 hour event and got 9+ hours of pay.
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Old 06-09-2010 | 06:34 AM
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Here is another company, Colgan Air. Amazing how they are eating up all the so called "mainline" flying. Advertising tremendous growth, yet paying their Pilots next to nothing, and pressing them to do even more. Hope you guys (gals) there will soon rise up, and demand more for your hard work...
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Old 06-09-2010 | 07:20 AM
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not sure i understand what you are getting at here. are you saying 73 hours is a lot of flying or are you saying 73 hours with 12 days off isnt efficient?
Define "efficient". One of management's deffinitions is not awarding per diem on day trips, and then stacking the lines with day trips. I'll pick up open time, but it will cost them dearly.
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