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johnso29 06-17-2010 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 828024)
Anyone who calls in sick should go to an urgent/immeadiate care facility. They charge emergency room rates and a basic bood workup/evaluation is about 1K. A couple of years ago, I went and was there 4 hours and got an eval/blood profile and chest x-ray for the congestion I was having (they were concerned about possible pnuemonia). They gave me an IV as a precaution for dehydration and it turned out I had a common URI (Upper Resperatory Infection).

Tab was over $4200 and that was 2 years ago.

DON'T let them claim they'll pay the deductable on your health care and request/demand you can bill it as a claim as that lowers your lifetime maximum. It's THEIR request............THEY pay IN FULL (not lower negotiated health provider rates). There's no reason why every sick call cannot cost a minimum of $1500 to the company. Should anyone live near Rochester, MN might I suggest a vist to the Mayo clinic. Also, it might be a good idea to officialy proclaim the pilot group to flying "under durress" and that they cannot guarantee their fitness under current threat and pressure from management.

Get tough with this unsafe draconian policy.


Me likes the way you think Sir!!:p:D

DashDriverYV 06-17-2010 08:13 AM

Didn't you guys at pinnacle hire our guy from Mesa who did the same thing over here? Sounds like a repeat of three years ago. They'll do this until you loose a contract for poor performance, then they'll hire like mad. But it will be too late.

mooney 06-17-2010 12:25 PM

guys we go though this cycle like every 2 years. Short staffed, blame pilots "unplanned" absences, draconian punitive policy, everyone fired up, policy is forgotten about in 2 weeks and business goes on as usual. I don't know if I'm just numb to it after all this time or if it is because my give-a-poop meter has been at zero for a while. Just dont get our panties in a wad yet, and be sure to cover your *ss and it wont be the end of the world :)

eaglefly 06-17-2010 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 828191)
guys we go though this cycle like every 2 years. Short staffed, blame pilots "unplanned" absences, draconian punitive policy, everyone fired up, policy is forgotten about in 2 weeks and business goes on as usual. I don't know if I'm just numb to it after all this time or if it is because my give-a-poop meter has been at zero for a while. Just dont get our panties in a wad yet, and be sure to cover your *ss and it wont be the end of the world :)

It's easy to "cover your *ss" and even easier to hand the bill to your manager.

If done properly, then he'll probably need a doctor's note himself.....:eek:

727gm 06-17-2010 02:39 PM

[quote=DashDriverYV;828049] They'll do this until you loose a contractquote]

"lose a contract"

Airsupport 06-17-2010 04:59 PM

yeah we go through this every couple of years with the same results. The wheels have been coming off every summer since i started here in 05.

TSioux55 06-17-2010 08:26 PM

[quote=JRJ57;827846][edit; delete comments] It doesn't take much effort not to get out on time the way we are scheduled now. Along with ASA, Comair, and every other Delta Connection flight at our hubs and outstations the ground crews struggle to keep up. But, our union needs to step up and get this contract settled NOW!![/quote]

I agree!! We do need to get this contract settled ASAP. However, it is going to be another POS, just like the last one. Except this time around, it won't stink quite as bad, therefore compelling a majority of the pilot group to vote YES.

kalyx522 06-17-2010 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by DashDriverYV (Post 828049)
Didn't you guys at pinnacle hire our guy from Mesa who did the same thing over here? Sounds like a repeat of three years ago. They'll do this until you loose a contract for poor performance, then they'll hire like mad. But it will be too late.

I think you're referring to MH from Mesa, he's actually at the Colgan side ruining our schedules and our lives since he got hired. until very recently all the hub lines were way underguarantee with like 12 days off on average even for "senior" lines. Yet for the past how many months there have been like 500 hrs of open time which they juniorman/extend lineholders with constantly. It just doesn't make sense, and when someone asked him why not just build lines more efficiently and not extend people with all that open time, he came up with some BS excuse like the open time wouldn't fit into the building of the lines anyway. (and yet starting next month they magically came up with these new efficient lines because now it suits their needs.) That is what Mesa guys have told me as well.. apparently it was pretty bad during MH's reign over there. Why do airlines hire these rejects from other failing airlines???????????????????????????
anyway about this memo yeah it's pretty damn infuriating. Why didnt/dont they just hire??????? I mean I know pinnacle is cheap as hell but it's costing them more with all these cancellations is it not? :confused::confused::confused:

coopervane 06-17-2010 11:10 PM

WOW!!

Replace EVERY reference to Pinnacle with ASA and we are living the same life. Looks like an ASA thread on the other board!!!

Fly VERRRRYYY SAFE!!!

GliderCFI 06-19-2010 08:03 PM

They also are considering any sick call over 3 days as two occurances.


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