Just because I repeated it doesn't mean I believe it. While certainly possible, even if this rumor proves true no one who actually knows anything would say anything openly about it. Probably someone said something about Comair being for sale. No shock about this. Then someone else added the thought that maybe it would be for sale as parts/liquidation instead of in its present form and passed it on. Once it had passed through a couple of more people it was no longer speculation but fact.

All I'm saying is while some rumors do prove to be true, something along these lines would be kept very quiet, as it would involve insider information and could affect share prices, etc. Anything is possible, but I wouldn't want to accept it as fact or anything but an interesting rumor at this point.

While I agree that the most likely purchase by SKYW is another DCI carrier(s), I wouldn't rule out a SKYW purchase of American Eagle. Management change there accompanied by restatement by AMR of its desire to sell Eagle. Would give SKYW a third major partner adding diversification. In any case I think we're starting to see significant Darwinism at the regional level occurring. GLTA

+1

Eagle would fit well in the Skywest portfolio of carriers.

Skywest is probably the only one who could come close to affording Eagle anyways. RAH might be able to but they have enough of a CF on their hands already to deal with.

Buying YV would make sense if the could merge it into ASA. ASA would get a good foot in the door at UA with 700s. OO would then take the US 900s for thereselves but only if it would not bring ALPA onto OO.

...and the MAG pilots still wouldn't get to wear cute blazers with gold buttons. :D

I don't see how regionals merging or liquidating and being absorbed by others creates a growth in the regional industry. It creates growth at the airlines on the buying end but not the industry. If anything it shrinks the regionals as the overlap and inefficiencies are trimmed. Not to mention a consolidation of regional carriers would allow them to charge more and turn the same profits potentially doing less flying. Consolidation, unless you're on the end of a liquidation, is good for us.

On another note, I think hoping for the regionals to shrink is pointless. The industry changes with technology. The technology of 2 hours ago was regional jets. As long as that's the most efficient way to carry passengers that's just how it's gonna be. If one day the bigger planes become economical again for the flying the regionals are doing now then we'll see the majors growing and the regionals shrinking. That's just how it is. This is still a capitalist society after all.

SkyWest management have stated that they have no interest in Mesa as an airline due to its debt. They would only be interested in its assets in the event of a liquidation.

AMR has threatened to put Eagle on the auction block before. I suspect it's just a tactic, but if they are indeed serious, then yes, SkyWest Inc. is the only one who can really afford them. Unless they blow their whole wad on other airlines first.

2008 was the last push by AMR to sell off Eagle. Financial Times article reported that Republic and Skywest were both interested parties, but not with the strings AMR wanted to attach to the sale. Maybe now AMR is a little more desperate to cut and run from Eagle?

Congrats to all asa pilots. All of your guys are recalled back to work.

Uh ohhh....could some of these rumors be true?

of course not! :D

I wonder if the next step is to announce hiring or the purchase of someone else?

You betcha!

I think you ASA guys are funny. You used to always come down on us SKYW guys for drinking the company KOOL-AID. Now it looks like you guys are getting the sweet taste of the red stuff a little to much just as we have finally learned to spew the stuff out of our mouths. Trust me when I say attitudes are changing quick over here.

We have been hearing similar rumors of extreme growth over here. (Of course as we begin pay negotiations) My opinion they just want to keep the troops in order. No one here in buying it. My suggestion (not that it matters) you should't buy it either.

I hope so but I think it has more to do with the fact that the guys in the first round of furloughs were approaching the deadline where they would have to start training from scratch. Bringing them back now saves something like $17k per pilot in training costs. This combined with better than expected fall block hours would be my guess.

FWIW, you don't "negotiate" unless you have a contract. SAPA going to chip and asking, then getting told no, is not negotiations.

However, you can expect to get offered 1% above whatever we have, plus our PBS system. You're welcome.

SkyWest had better compensation and work rules than ASA before your latest contract was concluded, so who helped who here?

I actually prefer the purple stuff

Stewie: Let's see, soda, purple stuff...Sunny D, alright!

"Biscuit" (for those of you who don't work here, he's a management stooge who hears all the good dirt first) is running around telling everyone ASA will soon have 30 -900s. It just so happens that that's about how many Mesaba has. Hmmmmmmmm.

I think there'll be quite a bit of opportunity in 2011, so I think many companies are preparing for the possibility of an increase in flying. SKYW has historically been successful at increasing their lot during such periods; buying ASA didn't directly help me get closer to upgrade but I think it improved the company's financial situation and leverage within the industry. So that being said, buying another regional could be good for SKYW long term, but I don't think I'd see any real changes at my prospects of getting in the left seat by such a transaction, and the only rumors I really listen to are the ones that could benefit me ;)

Sorry, that is not the number of 900s at XJ. Try again. Would you say you are partly full of it or 100% full it? Did he mention all the turbo props you would get out of the deal too?

Quite the snide response? Did I hit a nerve or something?

But you're right. Sort of. According to Airlinepilotcentral Mesaba actually has 41 -900s.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a...al/mesaba.html

So I guess his estimate is a little low, or maybe only 30 or so of them are included in the deal. Not sure why you think the Saabs would be included since they're leaving ASAP.

I didn't make up the rumor, I'm just spreading it. No need to be rude.

All of you ASA guys need to get over yourselves. Skywest will not buy a wholly owned. Mesabas 900's will stay here. If anything we should get back the 10 that were given to you. But since your company complained to Daddy D you got those instead. I am just sick of these stupid rumors and your S#!t doin't stink attitude.

I'm not being rude, just honest. My comment was also partly borrowed from a recently popular movie, although not word for word. You really have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea how many planes other carriers have, you have no idea what the lease agreements are on those planes and you talk as if you speak the Holy Gospel. Try and use at least a few factual pieces of evidence to back up your claims.

I understand Inc's desire for 70+ seat jets, but with the whole "re-branding" recently to distance the company from the Delta stigma, why would they turn around and buy a wholly owned that does 100% Delta flying?

You just need to relax. If you dont want to read about ASA rumors, dont click on the thread that is titled ASA rumors. It is not that hard.

As far as rumors go, they are just that....rumors. No one on here know what is going on, if they did they would be bound by a confidentiality agreement. ASA was owned by Delta when skyw purchased us, so you have no idea what Skyw will do either. Dont worry so much about what people post on these boards. There is a lot more to life than Mesaba or ASA.

To address the 10 900's, our management didnt 'complain', they made a deal. We traded 20, 200's for 10, 900's, but im sure you knew that already. Funny thing about them is that they were 'given' to Comair first, not Mesaba. It's a stupid game that Delta plays that ends up screwing all of us.

We should all be mainline pilots anyway, that is the worst part. Then coming on here and watching pilots drool over a few planes at the expense of other pilots. It is sad. One day you are the bug the next day you are the windshield. I have always found it difficult to get excited about more flying that comes from the demise of another person's job and knowing that soon another pilot will profit from my loss.

That would mean actually buying the company, rather than just the assets put on the market by their previous owner.

You see the difference right?

How many of those 900s does Mesaba actually own the leases on?

Hey surreal, you're not furloughed for long now, right?

Nope, I'm back. Already on military leave and all, lol.

So, likely won't be in training until I come off leave in April of next year, which will require me to go through the new hire training syllabus. *joy*

good point. I am not sure on the exact number, maybe someone can provide an accurate number

I think the rebranding was more about separating themselves from the ASA stigma than the Delta stigma. The company prides itself on being different than it once was (in no small part thanks to BH). And it just made sense to get rid of the Delta friendly logo when they're doing United stuff. Buying a wholly owned that does Delta flying is ideal because they wouldn't have to adjust their operations or learn a new system. Bottom line they just want to make money and that's a way to make more. Of course, no one even knows what's happening so this is all speculation...

You guy's really think ASA or Skywest Inc. can really just come out and buy Compass, Mesaba or Comair. My god you people are stupid.

Yeah.

Skywest did it with ASA not all that long ago...

Yeah that's the same thing:rolleyes:....thanks for proving my point.

ASA was wholly owned by Delta, right?

And Skywest bought them from Delta, right?

So what exactly *is* your "point" that the same couldn't be done today with Mesaba, Compass or Comair? Please, enlighten us "stupid" ones with your sage wisdom and insights...

I don't know for sure but I think he was using... "Sarcasm".

You guys are on the same side.