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slant alpha 06-27-2010 06:24 PM

I'm not here educate you on anything, you can do that yourself. Obviously you haven't already.... And yes they did buy ASA as a wholly owned from Delta. Here's a hint- you're looking for "Post Merger Airline and Services Agreement". It's accessible information if you just pull your head out of your ass and look instead of cackling rumors in the corner like a little girl. Search away stupid people.

BassFishr 06-27-2010 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by slant alpha (Post 833200)
I'm not here educate you on anything, you can do that yourself. Obviously you haven't already.... And yes they did buy ASA as a wholly owned from Delta. Here's a hint- you're looking for "Post Merger Airline and Services Agreement". It's accessible information if you just pull your head out of your ass and look instead of cackling rumors in the corner like a little girl. Search away stupid people.

.....D-BAG

makersmarc 06-27-2010 06:46 PM

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BoilerUP 06-27-2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by slant alpha (Post 833200)
I'm not here educate you on anything, you can do that yourself. Obviously you haven't already.... And yes they did buy ASA as a wholly owned from Delta. Here's a hint- you're looking for "Post Merger Airline and Services Agreement". It's accessible information if you just pull your head out of your ass and look instead of cackling rumors in the corner like a little girl. Search away stupid people.

I love regional airline internet tough guys - they're SO CUTE!

Ohiocrjfo 06-27-2010 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by slant alpha (Post 833200)
I'm not here educate you on anything, you can do that yourself. Obviously you haven't already.... And yes they did buy ASA as a wholly owned from Delta. Here's a hint- you're looking for "Post Merger Airline and Services Agreement". It's accessible information if you just pull your head out of your ass and look instead of cackling rumors in the corner like a little girl. Search away stupid people.

Another Professional Pilot :)

NoHandHold 06-27-2010 08:49 PM

Lol @ Slant Alpha thinking that a "Post Merger Airline and Services Agreement" will get in the way if Delta really wanted to sell a wholly owned. Lol @ how naive he is.

Rock752000 06-27-2010 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by slant alpha (Post 833221)
I'm not here educate you on anything, you can do that yourself. Obviously you haven't already.... And yes they did buy ASA as a wholly owned from Delta. Here's a hint- you're looking for "Post Merger Airline and Services Agreement". It's accessible information if you just pull your head out of your ass and look instead of cackling rumors in the corner like a little girl. Search away stupid people.

It must be "that time of the month" for her... I think we found that "one in every class too"! Put your hand down...

Hey big guuurl slanty pants, instead of lowering yourself to our level and throwing a few crumbs, why don't you just post a link next time and save all of us stupid people the trouble of the scavenger hunt? In fact, why don't you just go ahead and post the whole text of it to support your theory? Thanks, you're really neat.

Captain Tony 06-27-2010 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 833040)
I'm not being rude, just honest. My comment was also partly borrowed from a recently popular movie, although not word for word. You really have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea how many planes other carriers have, you have no idea what the lease agreements are on those planes and you talk as if you speak the Holy Gospel. Try and use at least a few factual pieces of evidence to back up your claims.

Well then why don't you kindly provide us with some "facts" junior.

Captain Tony 06-27-2010 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 833114)
good point. I am not sure on the exact number, maybe someone can provide an accurate number

~30 +/-

Are you listening jayray?

PA31 06-27-2010 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by CaptKrunch (Post 830863)
I am bidding. So far the bid is up to two oreo's a thin mint and a hilshire farm turkey sandwich.

I'd give a whole foods organic turkey sandwich with avocado for a WO with a side of yam salad and a black butte porter.

SmoothLanderJ 06-28-2010 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 833053)
We should all be mainline pilots anyway, that is the worst part. Then coming on here and watching pilots drool over a few planes at the expense of other pilots. It is sad. One day you are the bug the next day you are the windshield. I have always found it difficult to get excited about more flying that comes from the demise of another person's job and knowing that soon another pilot will profit from my loss.

This is the BEST thing Ive read on this thread so far. Its sucks that we are all on here arguing about what MIGHT happen and other rumors about airplanes that should be at the mainline level anyway.

NoHandHold 06-28-2010 08:17 AM

You guys are sad.
 
Nobody is arguing. Just another rumor thread for entertainment....if you don't like it...kick rocks.

SmoothLanderJ 06-28-2010 08:43 AM

Maybe you should take your own advice....

NoHandHold 06-28-2010 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ (Post 833453)
Maybe you should take your own advice....

Ok thanks. The exit is to your left.

Captain Tony 06-29-2010 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by NoHandHold (Post 833439)
Nobody is arguing. Just another rumor thread for entertainment....if you don't like it...kick rocks.

Yep. I have to laugh at all the people who get spooled up by posts by anonymous people on a message board. Anyone who takes anonymous message boards for more than entertainment value needs to lighten up. :cool:

Captain Tony 06-29-2010 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ (Post 833453)
Maybe you should take your own advice....

Your profile says "CRJ-900 FO". Which regional only flies CRJ-900s? Do you wear your epaulets upside down so everyone knows you fly "The Nine"?

Captain Tony 06-29-2010 05:41 AM

Now back to the topic. I hear SkyWest Inc. is going to make their announcement early next week. We shall see if the rumors are true.

NoHandHold 06-29-2010 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 833924)
Yep. I have to laugh at all the people who get spooled up by posts by anonymous people on a message board. Anyone who takes anonymous message boards for more than entertainment value needs to lighten up. :cool:

In my honest opinion...people who get riled up by internet posts, probably have a non existent sex life. :eek:

jayray2 06-29-2010 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 833926)
Now back to the topic. I hear SkyWest Inc. is going to make their announcement early next week. We shall see if the rumors are true.

How does Skywest buying a regional result in ASA gaining 30 900's?

Captain Tony 06-29-2010 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 833991)
How does Skywest buying a regional result in ASA gaining 30 900's?

Because if they buy another ALPA regional they will have to merge it with ASA to keep SkyWest Airlines non union. :rolleyes:

If they try to run it as another sub, the ASA MEC will file a single carrier petition to end the whipsaw sure to follow.

You do realize that there is a difference between SkyWest Inc and its subsidiary SkyWest Airlines, right?

SilverandSore 06-29-2010 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 834033)
Because if they buy another ALPA regional they will have to merge it with ASA to keep SkyWest Airlines non union. :rolleyes:

If they try to run it as another sub, the ASA MEC will file a single carrier petition to end the whipsaw sure to follow.

So how does a merger go? Fences in the beginning and then any new openings by a combined seniority? Relative seniority? How senior is the Mesaba group?

Captain Tony 06-29-2010 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 834042)
So how does a merger go? Fences in the beginning and then any new openings by a combined seniority? Relative seniority? How senior is the Mesaba group?

Since Mesaba flies the same equipment (except the Saabs, which are leaving), I'd predict relative seniority. You usually only fence dissimilar and higher paying aircraft types (like DAL/NWA with the 747 and 777).

And though they are a bit smaller, I think Mesaba's seniority profile is pretty close to ASA's.

WAVIT Inbound 06-29-2010 08:36 AM

Its funny how 3 months ago I heard this rumor from "people in the know" except most of the growth was going to the SKYW side. Heard the big man himself say that if Inc bought another airline he would not want another pilot group. Take from that what you will......

Just another tid bit that I heard. JA does not want a Union at SKYW. If another airline is purchased and all advantages go to ASA because they have a union and can merge list and SKYW can't because they are not union SKYW pilots would go Union Tomorrow. That is why he does not want another pilot group. Heard him say he wants assets only so growth can go to SKYW as well. Not flaming, just adding what I have heard him say.

trailblazer 06-29-2010 09:08 AM

Looks like asa is getting 16 more 700's soon.

jayray2 06-29-2010 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 834033)
Because if they buy another ALPA regional they will have to merge it with ASA to keep SkyWest Airlines non union. :rolleyes:

If they try to run it as another sub, the ASA MEC will file a single carrier petition to end the whipsaw sure to follow.

You do realize that there is a difference between SkyWest Inc and its subsidiary SkyWest Airlines, right?

I see no reason they don't just do it the way Republic does it. If they want integration I see them doing more of what WAVIT is describing.

ConnectionPilot 06-29-2010 11:41 AM

I just heard a rumor that you guys are planning to hire 400-600 more pilots by years end?

USMC3197 06-29-2010 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 834151)
I just heard a rumor that you guys are planning to hire 400-600 more pilots by years end?

hahaha I wish.... I hope so....

Panama Jones 06-29-2010 12:40 PM

The rumors are definitely flying fast and furious. I just heard one about a merger with ExpressJet. I don't hold this rumor to be any more credible than any of the rest, and probably very unlikely to be true.

I do think it's definitely entertaining to hear all the crazy stuff that gets passed around. New -900s, possible mergers, possible liquidations of other carriers (wholly owned or not) and acquisition of their assets, etc. etc.

No one should get too excited. IMO something is afoot, but I'm not sure what it is and am not going to get too concerned about it. And if nothing happens by the end of the year then watch morale sink.

So for anyone who thinks ASA, ahem, Atlantic Southeast pilots are crazy to be passing on these rumors, just take a chill pill. We'll all believe it when we see it. For now it's just idle entertainment.

flyingkangaroo 06-29-2010 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 834151)
I just heard a rumor that you guys are planning to hire 400-600 more pilots by years end?

I'm almost 100% sure that the training department isn't set up to handle that. There is just no way.

JetPipeOverht 06-29-2010 01:02 PM

..Which is why it MAY have Merit- haha

PSACFI 06-29-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 834151)
I just heard a rumor that you guys are planning to hire 400-600 more pilots by years end?

Hiring just 400 pilots by years end would require training 80 new pilots a month. I highly doubt that is possible to do all that new hire training plus do the recalls.

gtechpilot 06-29-2010 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo (Post 834185)
I'm almost 100% sure that the training department isn't set up to handle that. There is just no way.

To get the pilots online, perhaps not! But hiring that many, potentially so. Honestly don't see this one as a possibility but I didn't expect full recalls before next spring either. There's no way the new recalls will help with the summer flying at this point so it definite makes one wonder what's going on.

USMC3197 06-29-2010 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 834204)
There's no way the new recalls will help with the summer flying at this point so it definite makes one wonder what's going on.

Like BH said... cuz we extended 6 200's, got 4 700s, 2 200's and 40 pilots to nam. :rolleyes: I still find it amazing that many of us saw understaffing for this summer coming and management says they didn't. Without these items ASA was still understaffed, so I agree... something is cooking... but what? ta da DAAAAAAAA :eek:

resetjet 06-29-2010 02:43 PM

Thanks to Freedom our block hours for December are the same as our block hours for July. That's why the furloughed guys/gals are being recalled. SH told me today that no hiring is expected until Jan. 2011 and that would be for 2011 summer flying. We don't even have a hiring department right now.

Captain Tony 06-30-2010 08:33 AM

Another position notice came out yesterday. Looking at the max numbers, it calls for up to 46 more upgrades. Something's up.

Panama Jones 06-30-2010 02:32 PM

Maybe, but it could just be rebalancing for when all the furloughs are back on property.

afterburn81 06-30-2010 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Panama Jones (Post 834773)
Maybe, but it could just be rebalancing for when all the furloughs are back on property.

That's the way I see it. The company knows a few guys are going to get scooped up by Delta and they are sending 40 away to Nam. Seems routine to me.

acl65pilot 06-30-2010 03:54 PM

Watch the news wires. You rumor guys over there are freaking out.

WAVIT Inbound 06-30-2010 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 834834)
Watch the news wires. You rumor guys over there are freaking out.

Explain please.

JetPipeOverht 06-30-2010 04:19 PM

...We're acquiring JAL, You heard it here First hahaha


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