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bigtime209 06-30-2010 11:00 AM

Most Complex DPs/Arrivals
 
Name the most complex DPs and Arrivals that you have come across for different airports throughout the country.

Luv2Rotate 06-30-2010 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 834656)
Name the most complex DPs and Arrivals that you have come across for different airports throughout the country.

The visual approach into any airport is a pain in the arse ;)

belliott 06-30-2010 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 834666)
The visual approach into any airport is a pain in the arse ;)

I'd rather do the visual to any airport than slow down and get in line... but thats just me.... plus a visual generally means good weather which is always a good thing unless you are a hurricane hunter.

BoilerUP 06-30-2010 11:52 AM

None are difficult...you just have to be paying attention as a flight crew.

The "descend via" STARs (DYLIN4, KORRY3, etc) are some of the most error-prone arrivals in the country.

The departure off RW1 @ KDCA also gets messed up on a semi-regular basis causing a P-56 violation; its not really complicated though, simply STAY OVER THE RIVER and you're good.

ODPs that aren't specifically given as part of the ATC clearance are often messed up...no big deal in good weather, but could be deadly in IMC.

The TEB6 is probably the most violated DP in the country...if not, its got to be right up there. Its an issue because it creates a loss of separation with EWR traffic.

DashDriverYV 06-30-2010 11:56 AM

The GYPSUM DP out of Eagle CO. with the Single engine overlay

davispm1 06-30-2010 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 834666)
The visual approach into any airport is a pain in the arse ;)

I hope you are joking???? If you can fly a 172, you can do a visual!!!

Luv2Rotate 06-30-2010 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 834714)
I hope you are joking???? If you can fly a 172, you can do a visual!!!

Of course I'm kidding... :D

mmaviator 06-30-2010 01:18 PM

the best are the ones that you get rewarded with a phone number. can't remember the gps/rnav app/star into a vegas(or somewhere around there) airport that has a lot of step downs and turns.

Colnago 06-30-2010 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 834692)
its not really complicated though, simply STAY OVER THE RIVER and you're good.

It's simple in nature, but it's kinda hard to see the river sometimes throughout the climb. The optional radial works well in that case.

andy171773 06-30-2010 02:25 PM

Kennedy 1 departure out of JFK - CRI climb (transition) is an oft violated departure...not overly difficult..it's just that some pilots forget how to properly lead a turn, and control their airspeed so their turn radius isn't absurd.


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