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-   -   Pinnacle bought Mesaba (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/51778-pinnacle-bought-mesaba.html)

skidmark 07-01-2010 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 835163)
Wonder if Mesaba's Saab's are now going to find their way over to Colgan.
I don't want anymore Saabs, maybe the silver ghost if it's still around;)

The Juice 07-01-2010 06:19 AM
Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 835167)
They said in the press release that long term plan is that Mesaba will be the turboprop operator and Pinnacle the jet operator. No mention of Colgan. I would think they will merge Mesaba and Colgan, then change the name to Mesaba. That eliminates the Colgan stigma.
That is what they mentioned on the call. They said they would like to replace Colgan's Saab B models with Mesabas B+'s

etflies 07-01-2010 06:35 AM
So they say we're staying separate for now, but if either company integrates with Mesaba? Hopefully this doesn't translate to bad news for the guys at the bottom of any list.

eaglefly 07-01-2010 06:36 AM
Originally Posted by Ad Lib (Post 835141)
That Delta flying is spread out amongst a plethora of pilots and operators able to replace each other as an alter ego and as such, no one has any exclusivity over flying which is needed to improve pay and working conditions.
Correctamundo.

Whipswaing insures future pilots will live in their knees and beg for what they can get. 100 seaters will be flown for peanuts in the future and that's bad for both mainline and regional pilots.

There are 4 players :

1. customers
2. shareholders
3. management executives
4. labor

The first 3 win through whipsawing and #4 is the loser and that's perfectly acceptable to the first 3.

Sorry............thanks for playing.

Too Tall 07-01-2010 06:43 AM
If we become Mesaba, does that mean we get the Mesaba Saab CA pay rates? I sure hope so.

The Juice 07-01-2010 06:55 AM
Originally Posted by etflies (Post 835207)
So they say we're staying separate for now, but if either company integrates with Mesaba? Hopefully this doesn't translate to bad news for the guys at the bottom of any list.
Not exactly, towards the end of the call Phil did mention that both groups (Colgan/Mesaba) will merge lists based on the ALPA integration process and that the NMB will decide if new elections will be held.

We are merging lists, that is a fact. Be glad that both groups are ALPA or someone would be getting screwed.

Too Tall 07-01-2010 07:01 AM
Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 835229)
Not exactly, towards the end of the call Phil did mention that both groups (Colgan/Mesaba) will merge lists based on the ALPA integration process and that the NMB will decide if new elections will be held.

We are merging lists, that is a fact. Be glad that both groups are ALPA or someone would be getting screwed.
Is this the investor call your talking about?

Milk Man 07-01-2010 07:27 AM
Originally Posted by skidmark (Post 835184)
I don't want anymore Saabs, maybe the silver ghost if it's still around;)

You love Rachael Ray and hate Ford Tri-Motors :p

belliott 07-01-2010 07:35 AM
Anyone else think the audio feed from the conference call is crap? Its difficult to hear much of anything.... funny how we can afford to buy an airline but not worry about A/V presentation at all...

duvie 07-01-2010 07:36 AM
Since Pinnacle is ALPA, why don't all three merge?


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