Pinnacle pilots - What are your reserve rules
 

Callout time?

Do you have access to the computer list to know if you are likely to get called or not?

Any details you can give me, I would greatly appreciate. Thanks.

It has been a long time since I have been on reserve, but I will give this a shot. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Reserves get 10 days off.

No computer list. You can ask to be first call or last call, but we have no way to tell whether or not they went in order.

No long call reserve.

Call out time is 90 minutes for home reserve.

Ready reserve, up to 9 hours a day, call out is to be at the gate pretty much as soon as possible. Ready reserve pays 3.75 hours per day and you do not get per diem.

When you are done with your last assignment on your last day, they have 3 options for you. Release you (good luck with that), reassign you, or hold you at the airport for an hour of reserve. At the end of the hour they have to release you or assign you a trip that leaves within 3 hours of your original in time.

Basically, reserves here are treated horribly. The TA we voted down in September was actually worse for reserves than current book. Apparently the next TA won't be much better, if at all. Sounds like there is a good chance reserve will STILL be 10 days off, and now they will be able to hold you at the airport for 3 hours (big improvement from the up to 12 hours of reserve from the TA).

I'm glad I don't work there, that is awful!

Call out on ready reserve is to return the call within 15 min; then be at the gate within 15 after that.

The only time when per diem is earned on ready reserve is if you are put onto a pairing (that begins calculation of your time away from base) during that duty period.

You can also be escalated to ready reserve while sitting on home reserve if Crew Tracking has "exhausted" all airport ready reserves for that shift. When you are escalated, they cannot make you sit past whatever shift the previous reserve was originally sitting. There is no further compensation for being escalated.

After reserve lines are published, reservists submit a reserve type request form indicating what type of reserve they prefer. Crew planning will generally honor this request based on seniority and scheduling effeciency.

Actually, there is NO PAY FOR READY RESERVE. Sure, it's 3.75 a day if you look at 75 hour guarantee, but it pays no more than a home reserve day you don't get used.....which are VERY few and far between. If you're at 76 hours for the month, and your last day of the month is RR, you get 76 hours. No more. I've actually had an instance where I was over guarantee for the month with a trip on my last day that would put me further over guarantee. They swapped me with the RR the next day who happened to be under guarantee. Normally, I'd say they weren't smart enough to figure that out, but someone was apparently paying attention that month. So, he flew the trip for no additional money out of the company's pocket, and I got a 9 hour airport appreciation sit for no extra money IN my pocket.

I'm desperately hoping for some sort of min day or trip/duty rig on the next TA as that's one of the big issues for me. Sitting at the airport for 9 hours is bad enough. Doing it for free (or at a loss since we don't even get per diem to cover the overpriced airport food) is a slap in the face. I can't think of any other regional that doesn't pay guys for sitting ready reserve.

I am on reserve here. There is no transparency, and it doesn't really matter because you will fly or do something every day anyway. Lots of ready reserve and you will sit for 6-7 hours and then get called. Lots of high speeds. Really not the most pleasant experience, but what reserve is, I guess.

Sweet Jesus!
This is in a contract?!!

Was just reading through the Spirit thread on their post-strike TA...what a contrast!

You guys really need to get released by the NMB!

Lets not sugar coat this one at all. our reserve rules are horrible. There are guys here that have sat it for three years plus, I don't know how they do it. You could sit ready reserve the whole month if they wanted you too. Pinnacle is a very senior happy junior not so happy airline right now, hopefully it changes with TA 2 when that eventually comes. As a senior line holder you can get anywhere from 19-21 days off a month. Junior guys get 11 and 10 and reserves get crapped on no doubt. Its something that has to be changed.

It's more like "The contract doesn't say we CAN'T do this, so we can" as far as scheduling is concerned. Even if it DOES say they can't, they'll try it and see if you catch it. Most of the reserves aren't even getting 10 days off. With the extensions (we get one refusal a month per the contract) and junior mans (no contractual refusals), you normally get reduced to 8 or 9 days off a month. You can refuse more than one extension or a junior man, but you got some splainin' to do with base management.

With the exception of today (sat for 8.5 hours and they didn't use me. I bugged them so many times they released me a 1/2 hour early), I normally sit RR for 6-7 hours then get called for a trip that ends 4 hours later. If you get a duty period of less than 11 hours, consider yourself lucky. Reserve will be on a reduced rest overnight while the rest of a crew is on a high speed. Why? They can add more flying to you when you get back to base if it's a reduced rest overnight. Now, if it's less than 9 hours rest, they can only use you for 12 hours. Pretty much every time I've had that happen, they use me for 11:55 or so. I had one where I was at 11:59 duty. Somewhere there was a scheduler dancing because it fit my schedule so perfectly.

You'll get DHed out of domicile to do flying, teased with a DH home, show up to the gate only to find out your reservation has been canceled and crew scheduling wants you to call them. Then you get the word you've got another out and back, and you'll DH home on the next flight. Rinse, repeat for two days. That was my weekend in DTW last weekend. I just pack for 5 days every time now just in case.

You'll fly a highspeed, followed by 10 hours of rest, a 2 day with a 18:55 show for a reduced rest overnight (legal since you just came off 10 hours rest), a 5 leg day, then another high speed. Reserves here call in fatigued way more than line holders, and management scratches their heads wondering why we're tired all the time.

The last TA that came out added one more option to the list posted above as to what they can do when you complete an assignement: back on reserve for 12 hours. That would have been the new default, but the TA (thankfully) got shot down. Word is, the new one is they can hold you at the airport for 3 hours instead of 1, but I also heard from a rep today that the min day may or may not make it through in negotiations. Now, if I fly one leg, and they hold me for 3 hours, I might be okay if I know I'm gonna credit 4 hours or the greater of flying assigned. If that goes away, and I sit at the airport for the same pay as the one leg I just flew, no thanks.

Ouch. Sorry you guys have to go through that stuff. That is rough.