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djrogs03 07-15-2010 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 841765)
There wasn't a net loss of positions at pinnacle in msp.


really? seems as though skywest and comair have created a few...

B00sted 07-15-2010 06:13 PM

MSP base has been the same size (pilot wise) for the last two years...

Skywest and Comair have a greater presents in MSP, MSP pairing have flying through the other midwest/east coast bases.

djrogs03 07-15-2010 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by B00sted (Post 841775)
MSP base has been the same size (pilot wise) for the last two years...

Skywest and Comair have a greater presents in MSP, MSP pairing have flying through the other midwest/east coast bases.

i guess we've just been hearing other stuff over at XJ, because awhile back there was talk of them even closing MSP as a pilot base and making it a focus city for 9E, but you know how that train gets a rollin...:p

What is the make up of MSP right now? How many Captain's and F/O's and where do their most senior and junior pilots preside on the list?

B00sted 07-15-2010 06:21 PM

Something like:
131 CA's and 120 FO's

Estimates:
Most Junior CA - Summer 06
Most Junior FO - Summer/Fall 08

Airsupport 07-15-2010 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 841777)
i guess we've just been hearing other stuff over at XJ, because awhile back there was talk of them even closing MSP as a pilot base and making it a focus city for 9E, but you know how that train gets a rollin...:p

What is the make up of MSP right now? How many Captain's and F/O's and where do their most senior and junior pilots preside on the list?

Well there probably was something to it when all the pilots thought we were opening a jfk/lga base (still might, just using it for the example). MSP pinnacle hours were shrinking so msp pilots were deadheading or transitioning all over the place to begin their trip. Most pilots thought that spelled the doom of msp and everyone thought it was because we were opening up a base in ny.

djrogs03 07-15-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by B00sted (Post 841780)
Something like:
131 CA's and 120 FO's

Estimates:
Most Junior CA - Summer 06
Most Junior FO - Summer/Fall 08

cool thanks!

Minneapolis (this list does not include furloughs):
Total: 273 CA's and 237 FO's

JET
227 CA's & 185 FO's total including FTI's, LCA's, APD's and Management

Active:
94 900 CA's and 88 900 FO's
Most Junior CA - Spring 04
Most Junior FO - Spring 08

86 200 CA's and 84 200 FO's
Most Junior CA - Spring 05
Most Junior FO - Spring 08

PROP
48 SF3 CA's and 52 SF3 FO's total including FTI's, LCA's, APD's and Management

Active:
44 SF3 CA's and 49 SF3 FO's
Most Junior CA - Spring 07
Most Junior FO - Fall 07


Looks like they are going to need a bigger crewroom...unless they move all the flying somewhere else :(

ebl14 07-15-2010 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 841801)
cool thanks!

Minneapolis (this list does not include furloughs):
Total: 273 CA's and 237 FO's

JET
227 CA's & 185 FO's total including FTI's, LCA's, APD's and Management

Active:
94 900 CA's and 88 900 FO's
Most Junior CA - Spring 04
Most Junior FO - Spring 08

86 200 CA's and 84 200 FO's
Most Junior CA - Spring 05
Most Junior FO - Spring 08

PROP
48 SF3 CA's and 52 SF3 FO's total including FTI's, LCA's, APD's and Management

Active:
44 SF3 CA's and 49 SF3 FO's
Most Junior CA - Spring 07
Most Junior FO - Fall 07


Looks like they are going to need a bigger crewroom...unless they move all the flying somewhere else :(

Delta has mentioned that it wanted to serve NYC with aircraft offering 1st class service and 9E has been rumoring over a base there for a while. Looks like if you want to keep wearing your epaulets upside down you might have to move east. :D

higney85 07-16-2010 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by ebl14 (Post 841839)
Looks like if you want to keep wearing your epaulets upside down you might have to move east. :D


What is the point of this statement? Not only is it speculation and the idea of throwing guys under the bus there actually ARE a good number of folks who already live in/around NYC interested in the base. The shots across the bow of groups is doing nothing but getting both sides upset- which accomplishes absolutely NOTHING. Whether anyone likes it or not all of us are under the same umbrella- what is accomplished by antagonizing what should be "allies".

Mesabah 07-16-2010 04:22 AM

Yes I agree, I foresee that the 900 flying will be in ATL, JFK, LGA, and SLC. I see the DTW 900 base closing as well as the MEM one. MSP may have a few 900's but very little. Many XJ pilots will probably quit when this happens.

johnso29 07-16-2010 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 841897)
Yes I agree, I foresee that the 900 flying will be in ATL, JFK, LGA, and SLC. I see the DTW 900 base closing as well as the MEM one. MSP may have a few 900's but very little. Many XJ pilots will probably quit when this happens.

You really think so? Seems pretty drastic just because their base goes away. That's part of the biz.


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