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PeezDog 08-11-2010 01:57 PM

So many 50 seaters
 
Does it worry anybody else that the new ASA will have something like 354 50 seaters? I thought that mainline didn't want them anymore. What's going to happen when the contracts are up? Isn't United contract up soon and are they going to renew those contracts? What do you guys know/think about this?

Trip7 08-11-2010 02:04 PM

New ASA 10 year CAL contract adds 15 more 50 seaters once the merger is complete. Stipulation in the contract that CAL can replace 50 seaters with 70 seaters 1 for 1 if scope relaxed. I wouldn't be worried about it at all.

Spoilers 08-11-2010 02:07 PM

I don't care about the 50 seaters, I fly the "-9"... High roller!

newarkblows 08-11-2010 02:07 PM

also considering XJT was very close to signing a deal with US Airways replacing dash's and crj's with emb 135's and 145's. XJT/ASA is also the sole operator of the 145 XR with a higher GTOW, longer range, and better maintenance performance then the CRJ. I think if you had to be in the 50 seat game then this is where you want to be.\

They are also dirt cheap on the used aircraft market right now. They are desperate to unload some of these used 50 seaters.

iPilot 08-11-2010 02:58 PM

Everyone talks big about the demise of the 50 seat RJ yet they never do seem to actually leave.

DashDriverYV 08-11-2010 02:58 PM

SkyWest Holdings is now the proud owner of 496 50 seaters. I sure hope that the market isn't dead...

JayHub 08-11-2010 03:23 PM

it's been said before and i'll say it again...there will always be a market for 50 seaters

erjpilot7 08-11-2010 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by iPilot (Post 854373)
Everyone talks big about the demise of the 50 seat RJ yet they never do seem to actually leave.

Yup. People just blindly listen to the crap that's spewed about everything in this business. They can say they want rid of these things all they want. The fact is they have nothing to replace them with. You cannot operate a 70-90 seat airplane on many of the routes currently served by a 50-seat product. And if you retire the 50 seat jet and pull out of the market that won't support anything bigger, you are leaving money on the table. And there are A LOT of those markets out there. Settle in to your 50-seater, it'll be around for a while.

Confused 08-11-2010 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by PeezDog (Post 854343)
Does it worry anybody else that the new ASA will have something like 354 50 seaters? I thought that mainline didn't want them anymore. What's going to happen when the contracts are up? Isn't United contract up soon and are they going to renew those contracts? What do you guys know/think about this?

Mainline, I assume you mean delta, is not getting anymore. New ASA is just moving into "new united" side of things. And the previous united contract we had is pretty fresh. In fact before this XJT thing came up we were already adding frames to the United side of the operation.

Lowlevel 08-11-2010 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 854346)
I don't care about the 50 seaters, I fly the "-9"... High roller!

The DC-9? Cool!


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