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Originally Posted by johnso29
I think what most people don't understand is that there is NO 100 seat aircraft available except for the E190, and most airlines are not impressed with the product.
Also, the C-Series is what, 3-4 years out (allegedly)? Still plenty of time for an airline to to evaluate markets and get an order in for some early delivery positions. As to the OP's question...I sure hope not. |
The question should be: Are there going to be any OTHER 100 seat airplanes at the regionals? Republic currently flies a 100-1 seat and is a regional.
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The current news is ripe with code shares far in excess of 100 seat jets. Code share will be the new "regional" contract, or any other scheme that gets around scope and puts super cheap pilots in the biggest plane possible.
Too many pilots are the common denominator to low salaries. If the salaries went up, the contracting out issue (by whatever method) will be mitigated. Salaries will only go up when there is a bona fide shortage of pilots who will work for $20/hour. Quite regularly, there's a post on these forums proclaiming, "I don't care how bad the pay/conditions are, I want to fly for a living", and I'm not convinced that the 1500/ATP rule will have a significant impact overall. |
Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
(Post 856693)
84...and Air Wisconsin is still the only carrier that can fly that within UAL Scope. I also think that it's certain tail numbers.
And Mesa is currently operating 88 seats for HP/US ? |
Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
(Post 856827)
And Mesa is currently operating 88 seats for HP/US ?
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It is also worth noting that the BAe-146 that AWAC operated had a much, much higher payscale than most of the larger ones have today. It was a special operation which was tolerated by the United pilots because it was a small fleet (18 at its maximum), operated in and out of a few places they couldn't easily do (ASE and SBA) without bringing that equipment into their fleet.
IIRC, the top payscale was something around $140/hour before the concessionary contract went into effect. And there were a lot at that figure. It was not some unreachable number as AWAC had always been a company with high longevity. It was a unique situation and not really comparable to the Mesa and Republic 86-seaters which are operated in far, far larger numbers to destinations US Airways pilots could easily do. |
Originally Posted by F9er
(Post 856737)
The question should be: Are there going to be any OTHER 100 seat airplanes at the regionals? Republic currently flies a 100-1 seat and is a regional.
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Sorry guys, 50+ seat RJs are not going to continue long for any Regional with a UA/CO contract. Everyone I talk to indicates scope is the #1 issue on the JCBA. Existing contracts will likely run until the expiration date but eventually any 50+ seat RJs will be flown by United pilots.
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Originally Posted by Cruz Clearance
(Post 856847)
Sorry guys, 50+ seat RJs are not going to continue long for any Regional with a UA/CO contract. Everyone I talk to indicates scope is the #1 issue on the JCBA. Existing contracts will likely run until the expiration date but eventually any 50+ seat RJs will be flown by United pilots.
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Originally Posted by JDFlyer
(Post 856864)
With all due respect, this is the funniest thing I have read in a while!! :D
The pilots will, however, have greater leverage in future contract negotiations. |
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