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stickwiggler 08-11-2006 09:20 PM

Rick, just my opinion, but I wouldn't consider someone that goes to work for go a scab. If ASA closed down tomorrow and it was the only job in town, I'm gonna work. To me, again IMHO, a scab is someone who crosses a strike line, or quits while a strike is going on and then takes the job at the start up (the go situation)

some kid looking for his first job, Just me..... but I wouldn't bust his blz for it.

St

Sanchez 08-11-2006 11:24 PM

I've been watching from the sidelines for some time now as some of you that are not even airline pilots pretend to know what's best or what's right. It's time to clear the air about a few things.

I carry a list of all the Freedom A guys, in addition to the master list, as well as, and of course the latest and greatest GoJets. Captains prerogative you may say, but first officers have a lot to say in the matter. If I tell the captain that I am not comfortable with someone sitting in the jump seat, 99 out of 100 times they are very responsive, and suddenly we are overweight, get my meaning? Nothing anyone in this forum can say will change that.

Replacement workers are not the same as scabs, I will grant you that, not by the definition. But they fall in the same category, make no mistakes. In fact I consider a replacement worker worse than a scab.

"The kid that doesn't know", some else said. So now ignorance makes things right? I don't think so, even the tools I've flown with in general aviation know the difference, and despite their arrogance, they made the right choice by going somewhere else. Most people that get hire, do their homework about the company and their standing , it would foolish not to know who you are going to work for.

Some else claimed that it was an "attack on non-unionize labor". Yeah, I'm going to have to go with bull**** on that one too. Skywest and Jetblue are not unionized, and yet I don't see them acting as alter egos to circumvent the collective bargaining agreement of any group.

It is what it is, and the majority of the active pilot group feels as I do, make no mistake I fly the line often enough to know how folks feel. For you guys that are still CFIing, I beg you for the sake of your careers, and the sake of those who wrote the book long before we made an entrance in this industry...do not work for an alter ego, do not go to GoJets. Think long term, do not throw your careers away. There will always be someone watching....do it right

The Dirty One

rickair7777 08-12-2006 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by stickwiggler (Post 52641)
Rick, just my opinion, but I wouldn't consider someone that goes to work for go a scab. If ASA closed down tomorrow and it was the only job in town, I'm gonna work. To me, again IMHO, a scab is someone who crosses a strike line, or quits while a strike is going on and then takes the job at the start up (the go situation)

some kid looking for his first job, Just me..... but I wouldn't bust his blz for it.

St

You're right they are not scabs. But having lived through the long-term fallout of the Freedom-A debacle, I have a special place in my heart for alter-egos... :mad:

Koolaidman 08-12-2006 10:11 PM

There are many motivations for scab/alter-ego behavior...more money and faster upgrade are the usual ones, but the bottom line is that you are stealing a job that really belongs to another pilot who has put in his time and energy at that company. There is simply no justification for doing it...ESPECIALLY today when most regionals are having trouble filling ground schools.

What a great comment. Stay away from Alter Ego airlines like GoJet. I flew for Trans States and would probably still be there if it weren't for guys who just can't wait to fly a jet and don't see the big picture. Stick with instructing until you can get the time to go somewhere worth going to.

Good luck!

DON*T HATE ERAU 08-13-2006 07:09 AM

So is Freedom A and GoJets the only two Alter-ego companys to watch out for?? Excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject but I just want to make sure before I send a resume to any Regional airline.

Slice 08-13-2006 08:24 AM

Freedom 'A' doesn't exist anymore. The pilots that screwed over their brothers do, however.

rickair7777 08-13-2006 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by DON*T HATE ERAU (Post 52849)
So is Freedom A and GoJets the only two Alter-ego companys to watch out for?? Excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject but I just want to make sure before I send a resume to any Regional airline.

Freedom Airlines is now a fully integrated and legitimate part of mesa...APLA, and on the same seniority list.

I would recomend avoiding it just because it is mesa and you will be treated like total dogsh#t, but nobody is going to hold it against you down the road.


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