Oh yeah, try doing S-turns then go directly into turns around a point followed by simulation engine failure in a 152 :eek:

JK... :D

sorry but that profile is a trick question....
the right answer is to ask the other guy for an approx power setting, or have him set it for you.

a) greasy side always goes down
b) avoid > 250kt
c) don't be distracted with b.s.
d) In a 121 pax environment there is no way to be stabilized with all of those variables while also flying smoothly for PASSENGERS....so don't try.... Any instructor / ck airman who is ... GOOD .... is just looking for your cool factor. Could they fly that profile? sure...maybe...but they've been doing it for years.
e) refer to a,b and c above.

Sounds like the dreaded S-1, S-2 and S-3 patterns in the Basic Instrument Phase of flight school.
Patterns that the IP would WATCH you fly and not even try to demonstrate if you had a question :p

USMCFLYR

OMG S-1, S-2, S-3 Patterns ... there's a blast from the past. I remember doing those mid-winter in a T-28 with no heat between 8 and 12,000 feet in the "box" south of Corpus. What fun. Next up, "Turkey Airways"...

A litttle before my time (T-34C myself) but otherwise we shared some of the ame airspace! :D

USMCFLYR

Sorry for the thread drift.
Back on track now.

Won't happen. Only thing he would do is flaps on the approach. Didn't have to know the exact numbers, just called flaps on speed.

I do agree that they were looking to see how you reacted. As long as you are correcting and not popping a vein I think it would be okay. But that's what they're looking for since you get no A/T or F/D.

Your PM can set your power if you call for it. Just take your desired IAS and multiply by 10 to get your torque settings and call for it. 180kts is rougly 1800ft/lbs torque. Bring it back from 3000 when you level off, have your PM do that while you scan and trim.

Trim it forward for 3 seconds when you call for flaps 15, that will help with the balooning. (Ex skyways 1900 driver gave our class that tip).

I don't know....When I was there a few of months ago I didn't hear of anybody passing the sim. They were failing people for all kinds of reasons like turning their heads the wrong way and looking down for too long. The sim actually stopped working on one guy and they failed him. I kind of got the impression that maybe they had a pretty good idea who they were going to hire and who they weren't, regardless of the sim ride.

Hmmm wonder who just said this.....:confused: any ideas anyone....:cool:

OK, just keep telling yourself that .

They did not fail people for looking down too much. They failed people for not looking at their instruments enough to keep the aircraft under control. Remember that no one wants to come back from the sim and say, "I failed because I could not maintain altitude." Instead they walk out of the sim and say, "I failed because they said I looked down too much." I heard some strange excuses why people didn’t pass, but the real reason was they did not fly to ATP standards.