Express Jet Memory Items and Limits
 

Would any of you be willing to share your flash cards for memory items and limits. I'm in the Jan 3 class and I would like to get started on the rote items.

I'm sure there are others here that could also benefit from them. If could PM me, I will send you my email address.

Thanks in advance.

Ooooorrr...you can get the current list of memory items and limitations (should be handed out in the first week) and make your OWN flashcards like everyone else. Cmon man, its a time honored tradition! Beers around the hotel pool and flashcards!:D

there's an app for that

Memory items and limitations change over time, you should wait for the first day of class, otherwise you could be memorizing the wrong thing.

I believe the gods in the biodome/headshed had a change of stance compared to when you and I got hired.

They stopped providing the newhire with the list of limitations/memory items because in their mind, all it did was foster rote memorization with no practical application of what they mean, nor where to find them when needed.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Whoa..... Slow down there cowboy. We all admire hard work but training is not a race. If you don't think you can handle the training program and it's time constraints, well............:rolleyes:

Memory items need to be understood before they are committed to memory. Otherwise you won't know when to use them. You'll see.

Rote memorization checklist jockey's only correlate to someone who can fly the absolute hell out of an ILS, but check out when you actually have to earn your money....Put in the work now to make it easier later.

Making your own flash cards is a huge part of the learning process. By writing or typing them out, a lot of the information goes into your memory. It's best to make your own, it will help you.

busting on someone for trying to get started.....

some people initially memorize at a slower pace.
This does NOT make them less qualified candidates or pilots.
Especially if the guy has any previous turbine time..... many of the memory items really start to look the same.

Oxygen Mask and Smoke Goggles.... Don and 100% (or emergency)
Crew Communications ....................Establish

there's half of the list

hazing is NOT CRM

I agree with your points. But are you you guys REALLY trying to say that if you could have gotten your hands on a gouge sheet before going to airline training, you would have turned it down? I doubt it :rolleyes:

This guy stayed at a Holiday Inn Express Last Night! :)

Gouge sheet? The OP asked if someone can give him their flash cards instead of making his own. What are you talking about?

Who is hazing? We merely suggested that it's more productive to make your own. I just don't understand "generation me" sometimes.

One of the XJT guys has created an iPhone app for ERJ-145 limitations. $1.99.

Emb 145 flashcard sets and study tools | Quizlet

There you go...a flash cards site I found about the 145. ;)

My post may have been misunderstood. There is absolutely nothing wrong with reading up before training. However, I believe that memory items are very important and it's sort of like getting the cliff notes when writing a paper. The only reason we have immediate action items is because as pilots we don't fully understand the systems of the aircraft and their applications to flight dynamics. In theory if we were a master of the aircraft we would already know what to do and wouldn't need memory items from a checklist.

My point is they are taught in order so that you don't get ahead of yourself. It's not about remembering items in a list when someone asks you. It's about know what to do when the crap hits the fan.

Sorry if I came across as bold.

I think it's great the guy wants o cone to class with some limitations memorized. At Skywest they give us a packet to review before newhire/ upgrade.

On the iPhone, there is an app called "Flash Q/ard" where people post flashcard sets for various subjects. I found a set of expressjet limitations on there- should help! There is also limitations flashcards for a ton of regional and major airlines for download with the app and a way to upload your own card sets to share with other people.

Guys....

Thanks for the replys. I found them to be quite amusing. When I interviewed with Express Jet about 5 years ago, they were giving the limits and memory items to the people they hired that day, but before the class started.

I just wanted to get a start if I could, I like to type them in Word and print them. The computer equipment that I have at home is much better than in most hotels.

That being said, I went to another carrier, got a couple of thousand hours and a type in a 145.

1) I understand the systems.

2) I have already drank beer and made my own flash cards, but an other carrier.
( As someone said, the there can be some deviation on procedures and memory items, not only with time but between companies)

3) I don't have an iPhone :(

Thanks for the comments. I'm sure it will be fun to get back to the 145.

Thank you. I will compare these to what I already have to see if there are any differences.

Dont worry, after week 1 you will forget all the memory items, then you'll learn them again and forget them during the sim. Seriously just wait. Most likely you will get wrong information and you will only hurt yourself. The training program is built for all types of learning, and if you need more time, you'll get it.