Easy EH. Asking someone else to do what you could've done in 30 seconds and then getting frustrated that they didn't do it for you is a little silly.

I agree with Duvie, asking others to do what you can just as easily do and then get a bit bent is silly.

Regardless my TFAYD comment was just a general knock at SKW's Mgmt, in general. Sorry if you thought it was direct at you.

how many will be hired this year projected?

no new hiring

I've been told anywhere from 350-500 FWIW

Is there any skywest pilots in LAX that are in crash pads? I was trying to find some info on it, but no luck so far. I know of 3 guys looking for somewhere to hang up their hats. Thanks

Uh, sorry but that is way off. We need pilots and that is a fact. We are still hiring and that is a fact also. Exact numbers are hard to come by, a lot of it will be a 'wait and see' approach I'm sure. Rest rule changes and attrition will be the two biggest factors most likely.

We are understaffed in February and that is a bad sign. I'm half way up the seniority list and I've been moving up weekly so folks are leaving.

If you want to come here, keep your stuff updated and hang tight.

It was a comment to deter wingtips he blasted every thread last night about hiring without even looking on his own.

Hiring? Transitions? Upgrades?

I'll tell you this much, whatever the final number ends up being for 2011 I'm 100% positive it won't be enough. Keep in mind Chip did say "if we are 1 pilot beyond Minimum Reserve Staffing then we are overstaffed."

We still have 4 EMB new hire classes and 10 RJ New Hire / Transition classes on the books from now until July 5th and I fully expect the classes to continue through late October. In the end I expect 300+ish New Hires for 2011 and so far we've put less than 50 in class for 2011(includes todays RJ class).

Well CRJ CA is back down to 2006 hires which is great news. Hopefully this keeps up!

Yep, plus the next EMB CA award should include mostly 07 hires.

The July 2008 EMB CA class that I was in had many 07 hires, including me.

As you know that was a different time, it's nice to see somewhat consistent upgrades again.

Ah gotcha...carry on then :)

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Any recent interviewees care to share what approach you flew in the Frasca? Getting ready to go get in some Frasca time and I might as well practice something they might actually give me. If you had flew any arrivals or departures that would be helpful as well. Thanks in advance!

The left seat of anything is better than the right seat of anything. (Fixed wing)

Agree but most of us (I’m sure this includes you) are tired of dealing with newbies who are overflowing with a sense of entitlement and SJS. I actually flew with an FO who firmly believes (and still does today) that he is “more qualified and more deserving of a mainline job than I or any military pilot.” (His words exactly) He has NO TPIC, NO ATP, barely 2500TT and no college degree.

As for upgrade times the best answer we can give newbies is “however long it takes for your number to be called, no guarantees.”

Usually the left seat is better, I waited to upgrade at Skywest to hold a line because a reserve FAT Brasillia Captain makes about the same as a RJ FO. I just hit a point where I can hold a line on the EMB and go to upgrade class next month!

Congrats on upgrade, looks like come May you'll move up another 3 slot in FAT.

I'll take it! Are these transitions or transfers? I was looking at bid awards and only saw 1 EMB CA FAT transition on the 1/20 award.

MP's a friend of mine; he’s talking about the current May award that's in progress. I talked to VD on Thursday and I know for sure 2 are transitioning (include me, J.K.) and there's the possibility of 1-2 more if they accept it. That means 2-4 FAT EMB CA’s are headed to the RJ (MSP) in the May 13th class.

Not true, I personally know several widebody FO's who have been domestic CA's but bid back into the right seat, pay is about a wash but QOL is vastly better.

At SKW, CRJ FO wins vs. EMB CA in every category except pay which is a wash. Unless you need TPIC or live in a Bro-only base, there's no point in doing the EMB upgrade.

Well I guess some folks just have a need to be large and in charge, so it might be better for them to reign in hell...

I disagree that CRJ FO wins over EMB CA. It’s all based upon ones perspective and if you’re talking about an EMB CA line holder vs. CRJ FO line holder, the EMB CA will make over $12,500 (like scheds) more while building PIC time. Now an EMB CA reservist will make about what a CRJ FO makes IF the FO can maintain an average line value of 96.5 hours in which case the EMB CA will have worked a lot less. I will agree that a 5th yr CRJ FO has more control over their schedule than a 5th yr EMB CA but there’s just too many variables to post a blanked statement as you have above.

Also based upon your posting an EMB CA wins over CRJ CA. My reasoning is that you will have more control over your line as an EMB CA (better seniority) and your pay is roughly the same as a RES CRJ CA (assuming EMB CA LR). I worked a normal sched meaning what they slapped on me and averaged 93.7 hrs over the last 2.5 years, currently they nailing us with 5 - 4 days and 95-105 hrs credit. Basically the relationship between CRJ FO LR and EMB CA RES is the same as an EMB CA LR and CRJ CA RES.

Bottom line, it’s all based upon the individual.

• Note: Per Diem and quarterly bonus not included. I used our current 5th year rates.

CRJ FO LR: 40.29 x 96.5 = $3887.99
EMB CA RES: 51.86 x 75 = $3889.50
EMB CA LR: 51.86 x 99.5 = $5160.07
CRJ CA RES: 68.86 x 75 = $5164.50

Also Line Holders will gain quite a bit more in per diem that RES's.

How about most junior line holders in these positions? What about the other EMB bases?

If things started going backwards here and I had to choose EMB PIC or CRJ FO I'd move three feet to the right in a heartbeat. Plenty of senior RJ FOs flying the 700/900 exclusively making $50k+ and the schedule, QOL, overnights, and intensity of work are not even close.

But like you say, to each their own.

If I was living in domicile as a CRJ CA and things start to head backwards I'd take the EMB CA position but only if I could still live in base and could hold a line. But if I had to commute or could only hold EMB CA RES then I too would move to the right seat of the RJ since I no longer need an ATP/Type or PIC time.

My point is there are too many variables to consider and CRJ FO does not always win.

You guys are all effed up. Bro Fo's are the ones that Kick A$$! oh wait, we're talking about money, nevermind.

I thought we were talking about upgrading as soon as possible, ie senior lineholder FO => rock-bottom reserve, low pay and no QOL.


Of course it all depends on your seniority and what you want out of life.

Ding ding ding, we have winner. It all depends on where you are in life and what you want. To me, being PIC is better than fo, granted I'm not a cap yet. I know we have many fo's who won't upgrade to the bro or out of domicile because of qol issues and kids. More power to them. I hope more join that line so I can upgrade quicker :D.

I took the first upgrade possible and moved straight into a line whereas others took the upgrade and ended up on reserve. That’s just another variable, timing.

I must have misunderstood your posting:

Rickair,
For me upgrading to the EMB is less about being large and in charge and more about QOL. I can hold a Jr. IAH slot but will be reserve (with a 6 hour commute).

I could stay FO, but since I'm a line-holder on the EMB I decided to try that for at least a year. Also, I live in a bro base and am hoping to get a transfer back home...

I took the upgrade and have been stuck commuting to reserve for nearly 4 years. Been thinking about that downgrade for quite some time now.

To each their own, but I advise anyone NEVER to commute to reserve if you can help it. Especially at a regional.

Good advise right there. I wish I would have figured that one out sooner. I finally moved to base after 2 years of commuting to reserve. Not too excited about living in an over-crowded and expensive city, but it sure beats the constant stress of commuting to reserve.

How many guys do they run in an RJ class? 10,20,20+??

How likely would it be to get ORD as a new hire?
My base choices would be ORD, MSP, IAH. Is there hope of any of these out of class?

They are running about 20 right now, and you would for sure get one of those out of new hire if you got the jet. FAT is likely if you get the bro.

Ya, I got the jet, for 3/28. Happy to hear it's likely. I live in NYC so out of LGA (preferably), easiest commutes are ORD, MSP, IAH.

Does SKW pay for commuter's parking, even partial to a $ limit? Or is it only in base?

Congrats on the class date. Parking is only covered in base. Iah and msp are most likely since that is what they seem to be awarding. You will probably get ord within a few months though.

The March 25th RJ class has 29 New Hire slots and the April 25 RJ class has 32 New Hire slots.