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How about having a beer with dinner on your layover rather than 6 beers
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Originally Posted by toomanyrjs
(Post 966397)
It doesn't happen more often at the mainline level. It just makes the news more often. A drunk 777 captain in some far off city is a more exciting headline as opposed to a drunk regional punk in Des Moines.
Yeah, those darn regional punks. You're right though, it's not clearly exciting as a couple of pilots falling asleep while flying from San Diego to Minny, or as exciting as landing on a taxiway, or as exciting as the CA still using the tiller while on the runway, battling his FO and veering their plane off the runway in Denver... |
Originally Posted by Nark
(Post 966194)
How is this in anyway shape or form United's fault?
Originally Posted by TheBills
(Post 966255)
Its not directly, its more indirectly. United should be held responsible for their contractors.
Originally Posted by yamahas3
(Post 966271)
Innocent people paid United a lot of money to be flown from one place to another with their United ticket. United has the responsibility for getting them there safely, and even if something like this happens where it is questionable as to who's fault it is... United needs to be the one that takes the heat.
I'm sure that both the contractor, and the parent company, both did everything they could do to put policies into place, showed them all the right films, provided all the different courses and counselors to people if they had problems, etc....... AND STILL a certain person decided to break all of the regs/guidelines/procedures/ and laws to fly drunk (if this is actually the case) How about we blame this person's parents too while we're at it for not raising him properly? :rolleyes: Personal responsibility is dead. FlyJSH - you are correct, yet I thought a reason the lawyers usually went after the contracting company was because they generally went after whoever had the deepest pockets - and that is usually the parent company. USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 966543)
I think the PERSON should be taking the heat.
. USMCFLYR |
If this stuff keeps up, airlines' are just going to ban us from drinking, as a condition of employment.
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On March 8, 1990, a Northwest flight flew from Fargo, North Dakota, to Minneapolis with the entire cockpit crew legally drunk. All three pilots were subsequently fired and had their licenses revoked by the FAA
FlyingDrunk.com A good read about loosing it all and somehow getting it all back. I was in a crashpad with Joe, a real great guy and a hell of a drummer. |
Originally Posted by A320
(Post 966425)
How about having a beer with dinner on your layover rather than 6 beers
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Originally Posted by el jefe
(Post 966670)
On March 8, 1990, a Northwest flight flew from Fargo, North Dakota, to Minneapolis with the entire cockpit crew legally drunk. All three pilots were subsequently fired and had their licenses revoked by the FAA
FlyingDrunk.com A good read about loosing it all and somehow getting it all back. I was in a crashpad with Joe, a real great guy and a hell of a drummer. |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 966543)
I think the PERSON should be taking the heat.
I'm sure that both the contractor, and the parent company, both did everything they could do to put policies into place, showed them all the right films, provided all the different courses and counselors to people if they had problems, etc....... AND STILL a certain person decided to break all of the regs/guidelines/procedures/ and laws to fly drunk (if this is actually the case) How about we blame this person's parents too while we're at it for not raising him properly? :rolleyes: Personal responsibility is dead. FlyJSH - you are correct, yet I thought a reason the lawyers usually went after the contracting company was because they generally went after whoever had the deepest pockets - and that is usually the parent company. USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by Zapata
(Post 966960)
I am all for personal responsibility. However, having United's name in the headline is completely appropriate.
Although in the cases of drunk on duty, I don't think regional pilots are necessarily worse than mainline pilots. |
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