All of you seem to be just too impressed by Lyle's return and never realize he and his crew could have easily killed many on that day...on the airplane, and on the ground!

Like I said, you're just too impressed he returned to the sky to fly the 747 again.

You guys seem unable to understand the difference between someone who drank and then made a deliberate decision to fly – IT WAS NOT A MISTAKE - that day despite FAA Inspectors effort to stop them from flying. They all knew they were NOT supposed to fly, yet they made a deliberate effort, and were successful in ‘power-back’ taxi and takeoff.

You don’t know the facts, do you?

Your post reeks of ignorance…of course you may be more impressed by his 747 credentials then anything else!

You seem utterly incapable to differentiate between a ‘mistake’ and a ‘deliberate’ act.

You speak this as if the guy just busted steep turns during his private checkride. I suppose you think that someone who shoots another person should be allowed to keep a gun or child molester should be allowed to work in a daycare facility just because they have "paid their debt to society" and haven't re-offended.

It disgusts me this guy is flying again.

Agreed.

ACTUALLY, the FE asked the Fed to administer a blood test before they left Fargo and the Fed didn't. SOOOOOOOOOOO, the FE didn't think he was over the limit but He and the FO knew the Capt WOULD be. The Capt (at that time in his life) had a reputation throughout NW Airlines of being a total JACKASS!! Maybe he changed his attitude after he got caught & sobered up.

Good question and was the Cpt. ever asked about his actions ?
I find it to be ironic in that crews complain about management and yet some have no second thoughts about throwing another crew member to the wolves even when they can control a situation such as this.
Whatever happened to the days of taking care of each other out there ?


Ally

Heard he riveted his hat to a backpack or something and wore it that way...

It takes six beers to make the flight attendant hot :D

Cue the music:

I know both Lyle and Joe personally.

Lyle has admitted his mistakes, and taken responsibility for them. He knows that he can't change the past, only the future. He tries to help other people and because of that I've personally heard him speak at least five times at different events, at least half of which have been free gratis except for his motel room and transportation.

You are entitled to your opinions about him or anyone else, and I'll likely not change them. I know Lyle to be a stand up guy who is daily trying to make a difference in his and other people's lives. He didn't ask to be in the Big Book, or to speak anywhere outside of his home group.

He has never once came into the cockpit of an airplane trying to sell himself or his story or his book (he doesn't have one).

HIMS - A Substance Abuse Treatment Program For Commercial Pilots

Iowa Farm Boy

I knew the guy involved in the incident mentioned at the top of this thread. Really nice, quiet guy... Never would have expected this. Just goes to show that you don't know your co-workers as well as you think you do.

He captained a 747?! This hero is less a pilot...than a god!:rolleyes: