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Utah 04-23-2011 01:49 PM

By reading some of these post it would seem some out there think capitalism and competition are bad words. I'm sure if you were operating your own business you'd do it all different. All of your employees would have the best of everything, highest pay, best benefits, the business would grow nonstop etc... and of course you wouldn't compete with anyone else. -- If you like the socialist/marxist way of thinking so much why don't you move to China.

BTW, rumor has the SkyWest bid for flying the 700s came in nearly a $1000 an hour cheaper than Horizon's. Sounds a bit much to me, but I'm sure it wasn't just a savings of $30 an hour crew cost.

MatchPoint 04-23-2011 01:57 PM

Where's the Delta pilot b1tching at the Airways pilot for bringing down the industry? Or the SWA pilot complaining about an jetBlue pilot? UPS vs Amerijet?

Bunch of 14 year old girls at the regionals. Wake up, stability is an illusion.

AFOX1BRAVO 04-23-2011 02:18 PM

If it was all about pilot wages Mesa, and Commutair would have taken over long ago. SkyWest is full of former Horizon pilots who saw the writing on the wall. Lets face it picking which regional to work for is a total crapshoot.

jayray2 04-23-2011 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 984601)
By reading some of these post it would seem some out there think capitalism and competition are bad words. I'm sure if you were operating your own business you'd do it all different. All of your employees would have the best of everything, highest pay, best benefits, the business would grow nonstop etc... and of course you wouldn't compete with anyone else. -- If you like the socialist/marxist way of thinking so much why don't you move to China.

BTW, rumor has the SkyWest bid for flying the 700s came in nearly a $1000 an hour cheaper than Horizon's. Sounds a bit much to me, but I'm sure it wasn't just a savings of $30 an hour crew cost.

You work in one of the most highly regulated industries in the world. Get real, the airlines are the farthest thing from true capitalism you will find in this country. If you wanted free markets to run this industry you would get fired every five years and replaced by someone 10 years younger wiling to work for half your salary. How does that sound? I bet you'd be singing a different tune then.

Terrain Inop 04-23-2011 04:39 PM

Blah blah blah horizon, blah SkyWest, blah blah union. Blah blah socialist, blah w2.

Newty 04-23-2011 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 984646)
Blah blah blah horizon, blah SkyWest, blah blah union. Blah blah socialist, blah w2.


possibly the greatest post I've ever seen on APC, completely sums up my feeling about this thread.

Shy1 04-23-2011 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 984605)
Bunch of 14 year old girls at the regionals. Wake up, stability is an illusion.


Many good people are going to lose their jobs. Why dont you act like a gentleman.

Al Czervik 04-23-2011 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 984646)
Blah blah blah horizon, blah SkyWest, blah blah union. Blah blah socialist, blah w2.


Serious wisdom here. SSDD.

TheTransporter 04-23-2011 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by E6-B (Post 984593)
Everyone would love to be paid more, however having said that SkyWest pays better than a lot of regional airlines so I fail to see how it's a race to the bottom.

Is collecting food stamps and unemployment better than making around 50k as an F/O for SkyWest better? Hey I've got a better idea lets all blame the flight instructors they're the ones really bringing things down, I mean working for horrible wages and being all non-unioney.

Also, the empty threats are lolz.

Your paid more because horizon is around. Also, you don't have to go to home depot to make more. Just get a union, the pay will follow. But I really wouldn't mind if you went to home depot. Supply and demand will help us out.

MatchPoint 04-23-2011 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Shy1 (Post 984650)
Many good people are going to lose their jobs. Why dont you act like a gentleman.

Gentleman? Sometimes people need a face full of reality. The good people of Horizon have been up and down for a very long time and I wish them the best, WE (all of us) are pawns.


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