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beech_nut 05-11-2011 03:18 PM

Republic/Shuttle/Chautauqua Schedules
 
Are the schedules generally commutable? If so, how senior do you have to be once a line holder to get a commutable one?

Thanks

TillerEnvy 05-11-2011 05:50 PM

That's a loaded question that is really too tough to answer.

How long is your commute? How many time zones? Where are you based?

**My experience I was usually able to hold trips that would be commutable on at least one end. Not always, but most of the time. Now I'm fairly senior in my base and can hold many trips commutable on both ends. (RW cert)

TurboDog 05-11-2011 06:36 PM

Shuttle has quite a few early reports and late releases in multiple bases.

ToiletDuck 05-11-2011 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 992365)
Are the schedules generally commutable? If so, how senior do you have to be once a line holder to get a commutable one?

Thanks

To answer your question; yes and no. If you're senior enough they can be commutable however for the longest you might just want a crashpad. I'm a 5th yr FO and sitting in a hotel right now.

GoBlue 05-11-2011 11:57 PM

Shuttle in ORD has commutable schedules for the most part. I have had to get 2 hotels in the last 6 months or so. I am senior in base now, but even when I wasn't, I didn't have much trouble getting good trips. Other bases at Shuttle, not so commutable.

slumav505 05-12-2011 06:01 AM

CHQ ORD is fairly commutable, MKE is usually on one end, if you are willing to work at it you can get home by two legging it. Just all depend where you are and where you are coming from.

CANAM 05-12-2011 03:40 PM

If you're on the Chautauqua cert, the trips are not commutable from my experience. They are outstation bases, which means you will be the first flight out at 0500 on the first day and finish as the last flight in at 2300 on your last day. Because you'll have to flip from AM to PM somewhere in your pairing, you'll be sitting in a hotel for 18+ hours at some point. I'm not sure if it's still like this, but it was pretty hard to do and I only had a 2 hour drive.

slumav505 05-13-2011 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 992949)
If you're on the Chautauqua cert, the trips are not commutable from my experience. They are outstation bases, which means you will be the first flight out at 0500 on the first day and finish as the last flight in at 2300 on your last day. Because you'll have to flip from AM to PM somewhere in your pairing, you'll be sitting in a hotel for 18+ hours at some point. I'm not sure if it's still like this, but it was pretty hard to do and I only had a 2 hour drive.

GRR was ok unless it was a Delta trip. MKE AA trips tend nto to be. The F9 stuff gerenally has at least one end you can get home. As much as the ORD-Schiwtz flying sucks pretty much every trip is commutable.

Tchinson 05-13-2011 07:49 AM

What are the realistic mins. that Republic is hiring at these days? Is it really 2000/500?

Paid2fly 05-13-2011 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Tchinson (Post 993190)
What are the realistic mins. that Republic is hiring at these days? Is it really 2000/500?






Verrrryy doubtful!:p

TurboDog 05-13-2011 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 993439)
Verrrryy doubtful!:p

Might be realistic for a min, but as far as realistic for the average getting hired "very much so." At 3000 TT I was the second lowest time guy in my class. Average was around 6000TT and as high as 11000TT.

Obviously this is due to the fact that there were and are many high time pilots still on the street. Soon though, things will be back to hiring with the bare mins. ASA I is hiring guys with less than 900 hours now.

I see Republic keeping their mins at 2000TT until the puddle dries up.

Wiscopilot 05-13-2011 09:05 PM

Not sure about the mins but I will warn you that the new hire wash out rate has been very high recently. Some classes around 50%

DeadStick 05-16-2011 09:47 AM

I understand new-hires to S5 are going to LGA lately and have a few questions regarding the base:
  • Days off for junior line holder?
  • How many months to hold a line?
  • Any CLT overnights?
  • 4 day trips going junior or senior?
  • Crew meals / perks for DL flying?
  • Ease of commutability (to Mid Atlantic)?

TrojanCMH 05-16-2011 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Wiscopilot (Post 993455)
Not sure about the mins but I will warn you that the new hire wash out rate has been very high recently. Some classes around 50%

I heard the same thing at CHQ too. Supposedly a good amount of guys that were very qualified were washing out in the sim.

121dj 05-16-2011 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 994704)
I heard the same thing at CHQ too. Supposedly a good amount of guys that were very qualified were washing out in the sim.

Any fact or speculation as to reasons why? I would think that fully committed study and desire to walk out the other side with a type/job/clean training record would drive most people to a successful completion of initial training?

TurboDog 05-16-2011 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by 121dj (Post 994725)
Any fact or speculation as to reasons why? I would think that fully committed study and desire to walk out the other side with a type/job/clean training record would drive most people to a successful completion of initial training?

I think some of the most recent washouts were do to people not taking it seriously. Some guys didn't study enough. One showed up with alcohol on his breathe. Then there were some that were just rusty after having not flown in some time.

The training profile is not hard. They give you all of the resources that you need to succeed. Study, memorize your memory items and limitations, backseat SIMs and have a good attitude and you will do just fine.

slumav505 05-17-2011 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 994728)
I think some of the most recent washouts were do to people not taking it seriously. Some guys didn't study enough. One showed up with alcohol on his breathe. Then there were some that were just rusty after having not flown in some time.

The training profile is not hard. They give you all of the resources that you need to succeed. Study, memorize your memory items and limitations, backseat SIMs and have a good attitude and you will do just fine.

agreed, I had to do the full sim program coming back from furlough as the 145 was a new aircraft. i flew about 30 hours while i was gone all in light singles. I passed easily. I think dropping the mins might get some fresh blood in here who don't want to f up their first job. Only benefit of low mins. The guys who washed out of my initial class were the higher time guys fwiw.

Emb170man 05-17-2011 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by slumav505 (Post 994854)
agreed, I had to do the full sim program coming back from furlough as the 145 was a new aircraft. i flew about 30 hours while i was gone all in light singles. I passed easily. I think dropping the mins might get some fresh blood in here who don't want to f up their first job. Only benefit of low mins. The guys who washed out of my initial class were the higher time guys fwiw.


Don't need to go super low, but 2000/500 is a bit much...1500/200 would get us qualified guys who aren't to wet behind the ears and would come in with a good attitude and ready to learn instead of three time furloughed grumpy old men, washouts and fired guys from other airlines, and some of the others we've gotten recently (along with some great guys).

VenetianFryCook 05-18-2011 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 994386)
I understand new-hires to S5 are going to LGA lately and have a few questions regarding the base:
  • Days off for junior line holder?
  • How many months to hold a line?
  • Any CLT overnights?
  • 4 day trips going junior or senior?
  • Crew meals / perks for DL flying?
  • Ease of commutability (to Mid Atlantic)?

12 days off minimum for lineholders, 11 for reserve. Junior lineholders not liable to get much more than that.

Depends. Recent hires are holding lines in LGA right now because the base is growing substantially, but no way to predict how long that might last. No solid word from DL on where the added E170s are going to fly, which makes a big difference.

S5 rarely has CLT overnights - the DL side doesn't touch CLT at all at present, and the UA side has only a couple flights ... EWR, and sometimes IAD or ORD ... but rarely does anything overnight in CLT. Chautauqua (on the DL side) overnights 1-2 airplanes a night in CLT. The vast majority of CLT overnights at RAH are on the Republic side ... lots of flights and no base.

4-days in LGA will go senior now that they're finally starting to get some ... lots of commuters due to (among other things) the high cost of living. Spending fewer nights in the crashpad is always desirable. Until recently, the domicile didn't have enough people to support many longer trips. That is changing.

No crew meals. Not sure what "perks" you might be referring to. LGA-based S5 pilots will have travel benefits on DL and UA, and (like all RAH employees) on the Frontier system as well. Some (but not all) of Frontier's pre-merger ZED agreements have expanded to include all RAH employees.

Commutability depends heavily on where you live and the flight schedules. The trips haven't been commutable but that may change as the domicile grows ... some seniority should allow trips (or sequences of trips) commutable on at least one end. LGA has lots of flights to lots of places (to say nothing of planes, trains, and automobiles to JFK/EWR) but no FedEx or UPS to help you out of a late-night jam.

Good luck.

170Homie 05-19-2011 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by VenetianFryCook (Post 995389)
No crew meals. Not sure what "perks" you might be referring to.

Unless you do the LGA-ORD route ;)

DeadStick 05-19-2011 12:29 PM

Thanks for all of your help VenetianFryCook, tremendously appreciated! I'm in the pool awaiting class, and as someone who lives in CLT (and would love being based in GSO, the junior base) it might make more sense to try and wait for an RP class. Then again, seniority is everything and I'm not sure we'll be seeing anymore RP classes for a while (though I hear they're still quite short on that side as well).

170Homie 05-20-2011 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 995844)
Thanks for all of your help VenetianFryCook, tremendously appreciated! I'm in the pool awaiting class, and as someone who lives in CLT (and would love being based in GSO, the junior base) it might make more sense to try and wait for an RP class. Then again, seniority is everything and I'm not sure we'll be seeing anymore RP classes for a while (though I hear they're still quite short on that side as well).

Hope to see you soon. But as you will learn rather quickly once you get here, DO NOT base your decision solely on base and cert. You will get disappointed. They can change/close quicker than your boxer shorts

121dj 07-26-2011 02:05 AM

Any updates? No one is willing to return a phone call at RAH. At least give me the dignity of knowing whether or not I'm going to be working there. Too much to ask?

slumav505 07-26-2011 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 995844)
Thanks for all of your help VenetianFryCook, tremendously appreciated! I'm in the pool awaiting class, and as someone who lives in CLT (and would love being based in GSO, the junior base) it might make more sense to try and wait for an RP class. Then again, seniority is everything and I'm not sure we'll be seeing anymore RP classes for a while (though I hear they're still quite short on that side as well).


RP = CHQ

RW= Republic. There will more CHQ classes before the next Republic class. CHQ is so short it's not even funny.

slumav505 07-26-2011 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by 121dj (Post 1028671)
Any updates? No one is willing to return a phone call at RAH. At least give me the dignity of knowing whether or not I'm going to be working there. Too much to ask?


Par for the course. The best way to get a hold of anyone in the puzzle palace is to call scheduling and have them transfer you to the department you want. You'll get your info for class roughly 3-5 days before you are supposed to go.


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