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Old 08-17-2011 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat
I agree with the above.

I also would like to go to AA, but I wouldn't count on the flow through to get there, as a new hire.

Put your time into XJT, and you will probably upgrade in 3 years. I've found that whenever you're hired at a place with a long upgrade time, it turns out to be short, and if you're hired at a place with a short upgrade time, then you're in for a long one. I wish I hadn't left XJT. =(
What did you leave it for and why?
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Old 08-17-2011 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by erjdrivin
The latest ASA proposal seems to be iffy at best.
This might be neither here nor there, but what irks me about ASA is the slideshow they give you in the interview about how they want to be the first "super regional serving all 50 states." Well, I don't know how they're going to make a CRJ900 stretch to Hawaii, but the whole presentation just seemed like they were saying "We want to get as much scope as possible and try to become a regional carrier operating mainline aircraft on mainline routes paying our pilots regional salaries." I've gotta admit it kind of rubbed me the wrong way. This obviously isn't any kind of innovative statement, but it behooves everyone at a regional now for mainline to take back as much flying as possible. The impression I got was they were almost trying to lure you while simultaneously saying there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Everyone talks about getting their 1000 TPIC and gtfo, but where are you going go when suddenly your own company is flying all the mainline routes? I understand they're a business and they've gotta do what's best for them, but at a certain point when a "regional" is operating in all 50 states...doesn't that mean it's...not very "regional" at all?

Anyway, sorry, I may be way off base here, but that's just how it came of to me. And nothing whatsoever against the guys and girls who work at either company, because I just obviously admitted that I interviewed. The whole thing just personally came off to me as a bit slimy and underhanded disguised as corporate synergy.

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Old 08-18-2011 | 02:11 PM
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[QUOTE=jheath;1040236]This might be neither here nor there, but what irks me about ASA is the slideshow they give you in the interview about how they want to be the first "super regional serving all 50 states." Well, I don't know how they're going to make a CRJ900 stretch to Hawaii, but the whole presentation just seemed like they were saying "We want to get as much scope as possible and try to become a regional carrier operating mainline aircraft on mainline routes paying our pilots regional salaries." I've gotta admit it kind of rubbed me the wrong way. This obviously isn't any kind of innovative statement, but it behooves everyone at a regional now for mainline to take back as much flying as possible. The impression I got was they were almost trying to lure you while simultaneously saying there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Everyone talks about getting their 1000 TPIC and gtfo, but where are you going go when suddenly your own company is flying all the mainline routes? I understand they're a business and they've gotta do what's best for them, but at a certain point when a "regional" is operating in all 50 states...doesn't that mean it's...not very "regional" at all?

Anyway, sorry, I may be way off base here, but that's just how it came of to me. And nothing whatsoever against the guys and girls who work at either company, because I just obviously admitted that I interviewed. The whole thing just personally came off to me as a bit slimy and underhanded disguised as corporate synergy.[/QUOTE

Could be wrong, but sounds to me like you interviewed and didn't get hired. Bitter, maybe?
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Old 08-18-2011 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer1
Could be wrong, but sounds to me like you interviewed and didn't get hired. Bitter, maybe?
Regardless if he was hired or not, he makes a great point. Doesn't seem bitter to me at all.
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Old 08-18-2011 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer1

Could be wrong, but sounds to me like you interviewed and didn't get hired. Bitter, maybe?
I was offered but turned it down for my current job. I'm not bitter in the slightest, it was just an observation. For those who are happy retiring at a regional then it's great, but that's not in my plans (though plans change). I'm just saying it's an obvious trend in the industry which is hurting us as pilots in the long run.
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Old 08-18-2011 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jheath
I was offered but turned it down for my current job. I'm not bitter in the slightest, it was just an observation. For those who are happy retiring at a regional then it's great, but that's not in my plans (though plans change). I'm just saying it's an obvious trend in the industry which is hurting us as pilots in the long run.
Mesa serves Hawaii with the CRJ 200... so what's your point?
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Old 08-18-2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WstCstCmtr
Mesa serves Hawaii with the CRJ 200... so what's your point?
Whatever it was you seemed to have missed it. You're exactly right, and inner island flying is exactly the kind of thing a regional airline should do. However I didn't get the distinct impression that THAT'S what they had in mind by serving all 50 states.
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Old 08-18-2011 | 07:36 PM
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You are insane to leave XJT for Eagle because of this new AA deal. Any newhire at Eagle will have to wait upwards of 12-15 years before getting an AA class. 35% of a class is gonna be Eagle pilots, and all 2900 pilots at Eagle go first. Not worth it. Get your time, and then just apply to the majors and legacies. You are more likely to get hired sooner than taking an Eagle gamble.
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Old 08-19-2011 | 09:00 AM
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Super regional will require super pay..

Xjet guys will not roll over!!
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Old 08-19-2011 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Xjetter
Super regional will require super pay..

Xjet guys will not roll over!!
Yes you will, you already did on scope without even a fight.
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