2 days like it says. You will be sent an e-mail with you have been approved or whatever contact this person to set up your interview. I would make sure my logbook as far as times is all squared away and put those correct times into airline apps. Cause they will print out that airlines apps thing and when you come in I am more then sure they compare your logbook times with what you put on airlines apps and I bet if it off by more than an hour or something you will be on of the people that get sent home in the first 20 minutes...

Thanks for sharing your info.
Well, I guess they are not interested in late (and old :-) ) career changers and lower times (even though same twin time as you).
Good luck!

I Have 1300TT/96 Multi. CFI, CFII, MEI. No failed checkrides (yet). 4 Year Degree.

I applied on 8/24 and got the 2 day email last monday 8/29.

I'll start filling out the total landings then!! so much stuff to do... geez :rolleyes:

Hey...they only reply to people who applied on 8/24 I guess, LOL
They don't care about 8/26! And they don't care about a Master's degree either.
Oh well, I tried.

Don't give up hope that easy, I have not heard back from them either for over a month now.

It's my guess that FIRST they are trying to get all the CFI's & people with a current flying job & then career changers like you & me will get a chance.

Mine seems to be off about 4 hours. Can't seem to get a grip on why. Whould that be an automatic "show me to the door."

NO, it won't be. Don't sweat the small stuff.

what do they want clearly identified in the log book prior to going to the interview? (checkrides, BFRs, IPCs)? I think I am missing one BFR (from about 5 years ago).

got an email today with a phone number to schedule the interview... I called but I got the voice mail...... left my name and phone number but havent heard anything yet.....

They want your check rides flagged and tabbed in your logbook.

Anyone interviewing Sept 8th? If interested in meeting up day before to study, let me know. I'll be at the Candlwood.

Eagle interviews
 

Sincere good luck to all interviewing with AE. I've heard Eagle has zero backlog of applications and, therefor, needing new-hires. Can anyone confirm/refute Eagles lack of 'inventory'? Just curious if anyone has a feel for the hire ratio compared to those interviewing.

Having served a tour at AE, I find all the applicant concern over previous checkride busts a bit ironic.

AE has been known for it's 'baseball' mentality for at least the last 15 years I've trained and trained with AE pilots and ex-AE pilots. Baseball? Yeh, 3 strikes and you're out. Actually, most guys opt to resign prior to the 3rd strike to 'protect' their training record.

This 3 strike rule is so onerous, I once told the AE director of training he needed to hire more teachers and fewer umpires. The best thing any new-hire can hope is to be paired with a CA upgrade. He/she can be your best tutor/mentor and a substantial asset to you get you through the sim and on to line training.

Is it me or is AE seem more stringent on logbooks?

As long as the logbooks are in order it seems to be ok, my concern is being written off because I have to many check ride failures in their eyes.

Are these pink-slip failures or prior airline indoc failures? I believe that failing Part 121 training is detrimental to someone's flying career.

A large majority of those interviewing do NOT have any 121 experience. My class of 34 had 2 people with prior experience. These failures they are looking at are failures prior to flying for hire (mostly), but failures in 121/135 definitely play into their decision making process im sure.

Will airlines even look at you if you failed to complete (unsat) 121/135 training before? Is it as bad as failing an airline checkride?

You think they're stringent now.... ???

gotta love newbies

Yes, compared to other regionals, they're stringent... but nothing like they used to be. They'd interview 40 and hire 1... and that was when you had to have min of 2,000 TT with an ATP to apply, and 5,000 with an ATP and some turbine PIC was just to be competative for the interview.

Pink Slips, but if I don't get the call for it I'm ok with it. I'm comfortable with my flying skills and if they think my failures are indicative to the pilot I am, well it's their loss.

What types of things are being scrutinized when they look over your logbook? Logbooks always seemed to be pretty cut and dry to me, maybe I am missing something?

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I applied 9/9 tt950/ multi 41 and 2 busts. Not expecting a call but can't hurt to apply.

2 busts in less than 1,000 TT????
Fly for fun, and find another profession. Do the rest of us, and the potential passengers, that favor.

Really? Why the doom and gloom? Before I had 1000hrs, I had taken 7 checkrides. If I had failed my CFI and my IFR, would that automatically make me a dangerous pilot?

You've got to be a troll.

This is hilarious.

Really? How do you know what he busted on was a safety item? It could have been the oral. I don't know the circumstances, but I'm not going to judge. Have you ever made a mistake? Obviously not.

Smells of self-righteousness, with a hint of holier than thou-itis.

IMO, ofcourse.

That's the attitude to have. Good luck to you!

You must be a pleasure to spend 5 days with!

FYI I would rather fly with someone who has bust a few checkrides and have learned from them and has a humble attitude and is teachable than someone who has never bust a ride and have the attitude It could never happen to me..

Good luck getting ahead with that mentality

Prior to the difficulty dome regionals are having filling classes, you would not have been considered with busts.

The PTS is printed and available. If your decision making abilities are so lacking that you can't even decide for yourself when you aren't ready, and then subsequently fail... How can we trust your judgement on the condition of the aircraft during preflights, how can we trust you to remove yourself for illness or fatigue. You have already proven your aeronautical decision making ability is lacking....

To answer your question. Yes, it does make you more of a risk than the guy/gal with no busts getting the same licenses and ratings.

There are those that haven't, and those who will. Your day will come. No one is perfect.

Hopefully I'll be as great as you are some day. How many checkrides have you taken recently? If you're an airline pilot, you do one every 6-12 months. That equates to a checkride every 400 or 800 hours roughly.

If this guy went the traditional civillian route, he's done anywhere from 3 to 7 checkrides in under 1000TT.

Furthermore, you have no idea WHY he failed those two rides. Did the examiner get upset because he couldn't tell exactly what type of class E airspace he was in, or did he try to takeoff without a clearance?

I'm actually quite surprised to see a pilot turn his back on a fellow airman with 2 busts. That sounds more like something that somebody in HR would arbitrarily decide.

Look, he was asking about his chances with two busts. My point is the vast majority make it to the right seat with NO busts. Busting means you don't even know what it is that you don't know.... Otherwise you wouldn't have scheduled the test. It isn't like high school, college or the airlines where you take tests when others tell you to. He chose to take the tests and failed. His decision making ability is lacking.

The 1500 hour rule will be a welcome change. I'm sick if babysitting while they learn what they should have already learned before stepping into a jet. The passengers deserve better.

There is NO shortage of experienced pilots. There is a shortage of experienced pilots willing to work for what inexperienced will work for. Some call it SJS; from my seat.... They're right.

I used to hold that opinion until I met quite a few "experienced" pilots who applied to the same jobs that the 300hr folks were applying to.

I think we have the same views on the 1500hr rule etc, but I absolutely cannot agree with your opinion on checkride busts.

Eagle FO with zero failures in 9 FAA checkrides checkin in!

Just what is your problem? You were giving me $hit months back about one pink slip in ten years of flying. Failing a checkride happens. No one likes it. Put the white scarf away and get over it. Even better yet, just go away.

And do the rest of us a big favor too: be a little more modest and keep your arrogance for yourself!
One thing for sure, I wouldn't like to share a cockpit with charaters like you, not even for a minute, Mr Perfect!!!!

Nobody is perfect, and I make mistakes like every other human being. The one thing I do not do however is take a Checkride when not ready. That just demonstrates poor judgement, and overestimation of ones abilities.

Truth hurts, sorry

BaronRouge380

You will have to "share" the cockpit with all sorts, including Mason32, better get used to it now.

GF

How do you know these people didn't get their PPL at 16 and have test anxiety?

10, 11, 15 years later, are you going to say they are "lacking in judgement" or "overestimation of one's abilities?" If you take into account all the factors that can be thrown into the mix, those have to be some of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read.....get off your horse.