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Luv2Rotate 08-27-2011 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 1043927)
This is funny from a guy who started at Colgan!!

Yes but look at our contract/payrates/soft pay/min day/ ability to bid equipment... Its night and day difference here at 9L (soon to be known as Mesaba). Q Capt rates top at 119, Q FO rates at 48hr. And FO starting pay is 27hr, in Dec starting pay bumps to 31hr.

The Reverend, isnt going to let your railroad union at RP negotiate anywhere near our rates and work rules. ;)

SlowATRDriver 08-27-2011 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1043111)
Welcome to the ****-a-roach of the industry.... Why would anyone want to go there with the low pay and an upgrade thats pushing forever is beyond me.

This is coming from someone that got turned down by Great Lakes! If you have forgotten, go back and read your own posts and notice what you said about Colgan. A month later you apply and then all of a sudden you become Miss Mesaba. I really like your mentality of "My crappy regional is better than your crappy regional." It seems like you applied at Republic and got turned down! Aviation is a small world and what goes around comes around. I am sure you are a joy to fly with.

Oskeewowow 08-27-2011 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1045195)
Yes but look at our contract/payrates/soft pay/min day/ ability to bid equipment... Its night and day difference here at 9L (soon to be known as Mesaba). Q Capt rates top at 119, Q FO rates at 48hr. And FO starting pay is 27hr, in Dec starting pay bumps to 31hr.

The Reverend, isnt going to let your railroad union at RP negotiate anywhere near our rates and work rules. ;)

Wow, you're just oozing with smug

TrojanCMH 08-27-2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1045195)
Yes but look at our contract/payrates/soft pay/min day/ ability to bid equipment... Its night and day difference here at 9L (soon to be known as Mesaba). Q Capt rates top at 119, Q FO rates at 48hr. And FO starting pay is 27hr, in Dec starting pay bumps to 31hr.

The Reverend, isnt going to let your railroad union at RP negotiate anywhere near our rates and work rules. ;)


You Colgan people should know better than anyone that the bottom feeder of the industry can become an average player with the stroke of a pen. I remember when the Q400 was still just a doodle on some Canadian's desk, Colgan was the joke of the industry, Chuck was still personally hiring street captains, and Comair was the place to be. In your stellar less than year long career you got turned down by Great Lakes and everywhere else, the pilot group that you were lucky enough to get hired into voted in a decent contact, and all of a sudden you feel like you have room to talk?? Grow up buddy, hate to break it to you but once the awesomeness of the turboprop you're tooling around in wears off you'll realize that all regionals suck. Also remember that your contract is brand new. Republic's has been expired for 4 years.

Luv2Rotate 08-28-2011 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 1045397)
You Colgan people should know better than anyone that the bottom feeder of the industry can become an average player with the stroke of a pen. I remember when the Q400 was still just a doodle on some Canadian's desk, Colgan was the joke of the industry, Chuck was still personally hiring street captains, and Comair was the place to be. In your stellar less than year long career you got turned down by Great Lakes and everywhere else, the pilot group that you were lucky enough to get hired into voted in a decent contact, and all of a sudden you feel like you have room to talk?? Grow up buddy, hate to break it to you but once the awesomeness of the turboprop you're tooling around in wears off you'll realize that all regionals suck. Also remember that your contract is brand new. Republic's has been expired for 4 years.

Well got on with your contract and lead the way. awesomeness of the Q won't wear off. The airplane basically prints its own money and there are more coming. If for some reason I need a change there's always the 900 on 9E side.

Luv2Rotate 08-28-2011 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by SlowATRDriver (Post 1045247)
This is coming from someone that got turned down by Great Lakes! If you have forgotten, go back and read your own posts and notice what you said about Colgan. A month later you apply and then all of a sudden you become Miss Mesaba. I really like your mentality of "My crappy regional is better than your crappy regional." It seems like you applied at Republic and got turned down! Aviation is a small world and what goes around comes around. I am sure you are a joy to fly with.

Who the hell got turned down by Lakes... Should really check your facts mate... When I interviewed at 9L there were 70+ people in the interview class. Only 5 got the offer. Many busted the full motion sim and the tech interview. From what I understand Lakes doesnt run a sim and its a bubble gum interview pal.
As for RP, I never applied. I applied to 9L (because of growth) AE, ExpressJet and SKW. 9L was the 1st to call so, thats the pony I saddled up with partner. :rolleyes:

SlowATRDriver 08-28-2011 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1045602)
Thats the point. I don't hate it and I LOVE my job. However, I have friends at Colgan/Great Lakes and constantly hear how they're abused and underpaid, how they should go into another career field, how they can't pay school loans because they themselves struggle to eat ect...

If I were to loose my job today Colgan/Great Lakes and others wouldn't even be on my job prospect radar. I'd probably just go back to school and get a fall back career.

I might not have been in 121 long but I have a long family history in 121. My sister flies for Alaska, brother in law is a mech for Delta, and Dad is a retired United Capt and former KC-135 driver flew "in country" aka Vietnam. At one point he was furloughed and we had to get on food stamps!!! He's a college grad and former AF pilot, we had to rely on government assistance for about 10 months. I've seen and lived through their experiences in 121.

This was your post in July! And in August, you are hired at Colgan. Just out of curiosity, what did you tell them during the interview in July when they asked you why do you want to work for Colgan? The new contract wasn't there at that time. I don't have time right now to dig your posts about Great Lakes sending you a thanks but no thanks email but I know its there.

Crism 08-28-2011 08:44 AM

Boy do I love reading about RAH ****ing matches....

Luv2Rotate 08-28-2011 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by SlowATRDriver (Post 1045617)
This was your post in July! And in August, you are hired at Colgan. Just out of curiosity, what did you tell them during the interview in July when they asked you why do you want to work for Colgan? The new contract wasn't there at that time. I don't have time right now to dig your posts about Great Lakes sending you a thanks but no thanks email but I know its there.


Easy, I was furloughed and need to find work ie fly airplanes. I told them that 9L showed the most growth potential with the addition of Q's and more Q's heading to IAH.
Mesaba was purchased by 9E and pref hiring was given to XJ pilots on 9L back in July '10. In the interview they actually brought up the fact that ALPA would be pressing for changes and a single pilot list would soon follow. Chuck said himself that what people know of the "old Colgan" will be pleasantly surprised with the steps they were making. Simple as that bubba.

I also think you'd be hard up trynig to locate a thanks but no thanks letter from GL mate. It doesnt exist "but I know its there" must make it true eh? Kinda like "I know" you're a raging cross dresser, right? :)

My Chit box is less smelly than your Chit box. ie 9L,9E, XJ vs your RP (and whatever other airline your company dismantles)

Oskeewowow 08-28-2011 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1045600)
awesomeness of the Q won't wear off. The airplane basically prints its own money and there are more coming. If for some reason I need a change there's always the 900 on 9E side.


This has got to be a joke. I don't think anyone could be that ignorant...


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