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BaronRouge380 09-12-2011 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1053080)
yeah there's like 4 schools that have an agreement with 9e that if you have a certain GPA and less than a certain number of failed checks you get on with 9e with no interview.....

I've heard this before, unbelievable, not even an interview!
I've graduated from a French Engeneering school. I am not even sure they will recognize it (to be equivalent to a college degree) and consider me for interview with my low time 830/51, LOL.

Luv2Rotate 09-12-2011 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1053086)
I've heard this before, unbelievable, not even an interview!
I've graduated from a French Engeneering school. I am not even sure they will recognize it (to be equivalent to a college degree) and consider me for interview with my low time 830/51, LOL.

Be patient, your times will probably get you in the door. Those 9E pilots from bridge programs with 300 hrs are about to have a rude awakening, that cutting corners can actually get you left behind. ;)

Bartok 09-12-2011 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1053077)
only you......:o We now have 2 "spanky's" at Pinnacle.....

Lol, are you the first?

Tom a Hawk 09-12-2011 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 1053033)
I was told this issue if an FAA minimums mandate on the Colgan certificate. 9E doesn't have a minimum, neither does Mesaba. That's where the issue lies. If it was between the union and company it would be a simple (and immediate) LOA.

So what can we do Higney? I wouldn't like to see someone get canned because they were displaced to the colgan side and they are under the mins. I suppose with new hire classes they can up pinnacle's mins but what about someone who is already through class but hasnt hit 1000/100 yet? Regardless of their lower time I think that person just proved their ability to hack it and shouldnt be dropped. Like you said we may not be able to change what the FAA wants but maybe we can figure out something between the company and union. My idea would be to offer the FO's that were awarded or currently hold jet seats the same pay rate on the colgan side if they will give up that seat for someone without the mins to keep it.

Av8tion 09-12-2011 12:32 PM

The solution is really easy... you give super-seniority to the pinnacle guys who are under 1000/100... they can't be displaced... then when they get over 1000/100 they go down to where they would've been displaced to... I can't imagine too many pilots being more than a couple months from meeting the time requirements... as much as I disagree with pinnacle's criminal hiring practices, I disagree more with pilots being kicked to the street after being guaranteed a job....

Terantious 09-12-2011 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Av8tion (Post 1053198)
The solution is really easy... you give super-seniority to the pinnacle guys who are under 1000/100... they can't be displaced... then when they get over 1000/100 they go down to where they would've been displaced to... I can't imagine too many pilots being more than a couple months from meeting the time requirements... as much as I disagree with pinnacle's criminal hiring practices, I disagree more with pilots being kicked to the street after being guaranteed a job....


Even easier solution...mandate the ATP/1500 hour minumum rule. Certain GPA and selected school with no interview...what a joke!!

flysooner9 09-12-2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 1053203)
Even easier solution...mandate the ATP/1500 hour minumum rule. Certain GPA and selected school with no interview...what a joke!!

and have no applicants and be severely understaffed, yup great solution there.

Terantious 09-12-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1053210)
and have no applicants and be severely understaffed, yup great solution there.

I could really care less about "no applicants", quality vs quantity. I care more about safety than numbers dude. And more low time in-experienced guys hired equates to a higher workload for the left seat when the **** hits the fan.

Luv2Rotate 09-12-2011 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 1053220)
I could really care less about "no applicants", quality vs quantity. I care more about safety than numbers dude. And more low time in-experienced guys hired equates to a higher workload for the left seat when the **** hits the fan.


Exactly......

Fly782 09-12-2011 02:14 PM

I am sure there will be some who wouldnt think anything about letting them go, minimums are minimums and cutting corners is not cool. With that said they shouldnt be fired because they already have the job but this crappy bridge program needs to go. I do believe they should figure out a way to let them fly the Saab so the people who are here and flying already who have the time can get the higher pay rate. You dont wanna pay your dues before coming here you should get the lowest pay rate but also keep your job.


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