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BaronRouge380 09-01-2011 06:13 AM

Mesaba
 
Anyone interviwed with Mesaba recently?
Is it the same interview as Colgan, Pinnacle etc...
What are the real mins for Mesaba? Are they the same for the other airlines of the group?
Thanks!

IlliniPilot99 09-01-2011 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1047593)
Anyone interviwed with Mesaba recently?
Is it the same interview as Colgan, Pinnacle etc...
What are the real mins for Mesaba? Are they the same for the other airlines of the group?
Thanks!

its basically the same company now, but if they are "seperate" then mesaba won't be hiring any time soon due to so many displacments (b/c of parking their saabs)

IlliniPilot99 09-01-2011 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 1047617)
Technically, we're separate still. That said... Mesaba is conducting the interviews for Colgan and it's the same as the Mesaba interview. FWIW, there won't be any more Mesaba classes, just Colgan ones, so you best meet the Colgan minimums if you want the job.

thanks for adding, I wasn't completely sure, yes, I'm in the Sept. 12th colgan class but interview in minneapolis at mesaba.

what they said there is and i quote " mesaba has no plans in the future for new hire classes only colgan and pinnacle"

atpwannabe 09-10-2011 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 1047617)
Technically, we're separate still. That said... Mesaba is conducting the interviews for Colgan and it's the same as the Mesaba interview. FWIW, there won't be any more Mesaba classes, just Colgan ones, so you best meet the Colgan minimums if you want the job.

So if the "new" Mesaba is going to an all turbo-prop fleet according to their APC page, does that imply that Pinnacle plans to combine Mesaba & Colgan? If so, will the "new" Mesaba operate only the Q400 and/or will the name of the "new" Mesaba be Colgan? :confused:



atp

CRJPlt 09-10-2011 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 1052360)
So if the "new" Mesaba is going to an all turbo-prop fleet according to their APC page, does that imply that Pinnacle plans to combine Mesaba & Colgan? If so, will the "new" Mesaba operate only the Q400 and/or will the name of the "new" Mesaba be Colgan? :confused:



atp


At the end of this year ALL Mesaba Saabs will be gone and they will simply change the name of the Colgan certificate to "Mesaba" The Colgan name will then be retired and the new "Mesaba" will operate Q400's and the original Colgan Saabs as we see now.

magnus0322 09-10-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by CRJPlt (Post 1052374)
At the end of this year ALL Mesaba Saabs will be gone and they will simply change the name of the Colgan certificate to "Mesaba" The Colgan name will then be retired and the new "Mesaba" will operate Q400's and the original Colgan Saabs as we see now.

You got most of it correct. Mesaba saabs will be sent to Colgan after Mesaba loses their saab flying from Delta and US Airways. As it stands that is all set to happen by the end of the year. At that point, the older Colgan saabs will be retired and Colgan will keep the Mesaba saabs. Colgan will be renamed Mesaba, and this "new" Mesaba will operate Q400s and Saabs.

Also, keep in mind that if you get hired at Pinnacle, because of our ISL, most new hires will probably be going into the Saab from now on instead of the jets. Eventually when you gain seniority you will be able to bid any equipment between Pinnacle or Colgan as there are no fences for FO just for CA

atpwannabe 09-11-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by magnus0322 (Post 1052456)
You got most of it correct. Mesaba saabs will be sent to Colgan after Mesaba loses their saab flying from Delta and US Airways. As it stands that is all set to happen by the end of the year. At that point, the older Colgan saabs will be retired and Colgan will keep the Mesaba saabs. Colgan will be renamed Mesaba, and this "new" Mesaba will operate Q400s and Saabs.

Also, keep in mind that if you get hired at Pinnacle, because of our ISL, most new hires will probably be going into the Saab from now on instead of the jets. Eventually when you gain seniority you will be able to bid any equipment between Pinnacle or Colgan as there are no fences for FO just for CA


Just for my information:

a) Do you think the "new" Mesaba will keep their minimums at 600/50 or go with the 1000/100?

b) Will upgrades for FO's be determined by number of hours flown with the company or do you think that it will just depend upon movement? Btw, what's the average time for upgrades now, if any at all?

c) Once all of the consolidations and base closings take place, where do you think new hires will be going whether they get the Q4 or SB340?


Thanks.


atp

etflies 09-11-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 1052710)
Just for my information:

a) Do you think the "new" Mesaba will keep their minimums at 600/50 or go with the 1000/100?

b) Will upgrades for FO's be determined by number of hours flown with the company or do you think that it will just depend upon movement? Btw, what's the average time for upgrades now, if any at all?

c) Once all of the consolidations and base closings take place, where do you think new hires will be going whether they get the Q4 or SB340?


Thanks.


atp


Couldn't tell you about the change in minimums but if I were a betting man they would keep Mesaba's minimums. We're keeping the Mesaba certificate and they've taken over most of the training from what I hear. Your best bet is to keep flying and get as many hours as you can. Don't put it on cruise control when you meet one company's minimums.

We do have internal minimums to be met, but you're joining a decent sized seniority list, you won't be seeing an upgrade just because you hit the minimums. Assuming you meet the minimums, when your spot can hold a CA seat, you can upgrade. Upgrade time for new hires is probably 4-5 years right now, based on the DOH of junior Captains. I've heard as low as 3 and as high as 7 from different people though so again, your guess is as good as mine. For pre-merger guys its different because of the SLI fences put in place. Of course this can all change rapidly.

As far as which airplane, your guess is as good as mine. We just had a new guy doing his observation rides last week that said he started class thinking they would be on the Q and at somepoint before indoc was done they were told they would be a Saab class. My point is I don't think the company even knows until your class gets there and until you start systems don't get your hopes up either way.

Bartok 09-11-2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by etflies (Post 1052713)
Couldn't tell you about the change in minimums but if I were a betting man they would keep Mesaba's minimums. We're keeping the Mesaba certificate and they've taken over most of the training from what I hear. Your best bet is to keep flying and get as many hours as you can. Don't put it on cruise control when you meet one company's minimums.

We do have internal minimums to be met, but you're joining a decent sized seniority list, you won't be seeing an upgrade just because you hit the minimums. When your sport can hold a CA seat, you can upgrade. Upgrade time for new hires is probably 4-5 years right now, based on the DOH of junior Captains. I've heard as low as 3 and as high as 7 from different people though so again, your guess is as good as mine. For pre-merger guys its different because of the SLI fences put in place. Of course this can all change rapidly.

As far as which airplane, your guess is as good as mine. We just had a new guy doing his observation rides last week that said he started class thinking they would be on the Q and at somepoint before indoc was done they were told they would be a Saab class. My point is I don't think the company even knows until your class gets there and until you start systems don't get your hopes up either way.

They are keeping Colgans certificate and then changing the name Colgan to Mesaba.

I would expect Colgan Minimums until the FAA says differently.

Upgrades?

hahahahahahahaha! not anytime soon.

etflies 09-11-2011 02:33 PM

Bartok is probably right about the minimums now that I read that.


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