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Cruz5350 09-09-2011 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 1051902)
You remember what I got paid?

I mean come on....I can totally brag and say that I'm one of those "young-ass" FOs with some turbine PIC.

Don't remember the pay, but I know the hotel they put you up in was pretty damn nice. I kinda just chuckle looking at myself logging turbine PIC, but its completely legit so...

hc0fitted 09-09-2011 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by jgdeleon09 (Post 1051683)
No other options right now... :eek:

Are you serious ?? You are telling me Great Lakes are the only people hiring out there right now ?

Cruz5350 09-09-2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by hc0fitted (Post 1051911)
Are you serious ?? You are telling me Great Lakes are the only people hiring out there right now ?

Some folks backgrounds won't allow them to go anywhere else. Like myself I'm shut out due to my pink slips.

DirectTo 09-09-2011 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1051904)
I kinda just chuckle looking at myself logging turbine PIC, but its completely legit so...

Just remember what's legit or legal doesn't mean it's accepted or even tolerated. Prior to upgrading at my previous gig (135 charter) I had logged PIC time on legs I flew in the King Air. I had the necessary endorsements and the 135 SIC training.

A while after I upgraded I heard that several companies refuse to recognize the time since you're not responsible for the aircraft. During interviews two regionals told me they wouldn't have taken the time, even if it had been logged as SIC.

People think it's all fancy to grab that turbine PIC as early as they can, but unless you're signing the paperwork and putting your ass on the line for the flight, you may find that logging that time comes back to bite you.

Cruz5350 09-09-2011 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by DirectTo (Post 1051938)
Just remember what's legit or legal doesn't mean it's accepted or even tolerated. Prior to upgrading at my previous gig (135 charter) I had logged PIC time on legs I flew in the King Air. I had the necessary endorsements and the 135 SIC training.

A while after I upgraded I heard that several companies refuse to recognize the time since you're not responsible for the aircraft. During interviews two regionals told me they wouldn't have taken the time, even if it had been logged as SIC.

People think it's all fancy to grab that turbine PIC as early as they can, but unless you're signing the paperwork and putting your ass on the line for the flight, you may find that logging that time comes back to bite you.

I've thought about that so what I'm just going to do is grab the necessary piston time over the mins in case it comes up. My feelings on the matter are a bit swayed as I can see where they come from, but if the FAA says it's legal why should they make a big deal out of it? The flights in this case are all Pt. 91 and I've been reading the POH front to back in case questions arise on the interview. If my butt is logging PIC I better damn well know how the plane operates.

1900CA 09-09-2011 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by DirectTo (Post 1051938)
Just remember what's legit or legal doesn't mean it's accepted or even tolerated. Prior to upgrading at my previous gig (135 charter) I had logged PIC time on legs I flew in the King Air. I had the necessary endorsements and the 135 SIC training.

A while after I upgraded I heard that several companies refuse to recognize the time since you're not responsible for the aircraft. During interviews two regionals told me they wouldn't have taken the time, even if it had been logged as SIC.

People think it's all fancy to grab that turbine PIC as early as they can, but unless you're signing the paperwork and putting your ass on the line for the flight, you may find that logging that time comes back to bite you.


I have heard stories at Lakes where they have given people a hard time about that as well. How many pinks do you have? This could raise an issue anywhere you look imo.

jsfBoat 09-09-2011 02:00 PM

Anyone having an interview soon, good luck. This place seems like a great place to be at. Sure the pay isn't the greatest, but a lot of other things make up for it.

For those of you that want to be here, don't let the people that are uneducated about Lakes steer you away. As the saying goes around here: "Twice the pilot, half the price." If people gave this place a chance, they'd be plesently surprised, I was despite my initial reluctance. I'm looking forward to getting out on the line soon.

Yes, they're strict on the multi time, as long as you have that, apply! If you get an offer, study your butt off and be proficient at instrument flying in something that does approaches from 180-140KIAS, know how to use an RMI and NDBs in strong cross winds. I'm in sim training right now, and these are big. The training is survivable if you're commited, study like you've never studied before, and can MEMORIZE things verbatum. Good luck to everyone wanting to come here.

Cruz5350 09-09-2011 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by 1900CA (Post 1051943)
I have heard stories at Lakes where they have given people a hard time about that as well. How many pinks do you have? This could raise an issue anywhere you look imo.

Ya I've heard the same I'm not going to advertise flying it, but if they ask I wont deny and just answer a question to the best of my ability. I have 4 pinks from damn CFI rides. I know a recent new hire made it with 3 and it wasn't much of a deal to them. Sounded like they were looking at the overall picture. At least I hope that's what they do. If it it doesn't work out life goes on....

flyprdu 09-09-2011 02:02 PM

Did anyone else think this thread was about recruiting for Command & Conquer: Generals?

DirectTo 09-09-2011 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1051941)
If my butt is logging PIC I better damn well know how the plane operates.

I would think you'd be in a far better situation in that case, especially with a company like Lakes with 1900s, I'm sure they can ask a fair bit about the King Air knowing it has similarities with the 1900.

And again, I'm not saying every company minds, or telling you not to do it, just telling you what my experience was.


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