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Vertigo1960 07-30-2013 11:27 AM

LearFlyer: The IPAD can be used as a stand-alone platform. You can generate reports, print log pages, etc. however, if you have a lot of history, the IPAD will be slow. It is a trade-off.

After my last Windows platform crashed, I migrated to the MAC-world entirely. I have been assimilated: IMAC, IPad, IPhone. I like the easy button as an end user.

LTP may have a sale going on during Oshkosh. Not sure. What I am sure of is their customer support. Very timely and helpful.

If you need more info, PM me.

Good luck.

rotorhead1026 07-30-2013 01:19 PM

Nope, you need the Mac. I got a basic laptop on Craigslist, converted my data (sent an .xls file in and had the company convert it, actually) and I was ready to go. Updating (adding hundreds of entries) on the IPad is 'way to cumbersome; you'll simply never get it done.


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 1454211)
Help an old guy out...I'm considering logten pro. Based on the above comments, i'm still trying to figure out of I need a mac or not for LTP? I have an ipad and iphone. Can't I just enter all of my previous and future times on the ipad? Without a mac? Thanks.


24601 07-30-2013 04:15 PM

I had both, logten is much better. I had logpro because of the PC issue. But after flying with someone that had LogTen i saw what i was missing. much happier now

Lucky8888 08-24-2013 06:49 PM

I've tried them all (at least the popular ones). Logten pro and Safelog are function-by-function pretty much equivalent. Logten pro's sync function (for portable devices) is a kludge in my opinion whereby Safelog uses a "true" sync to their servers. Logten pro is wedded to the Apple platforms and they have already announced their commitment to use iCloud as their syncing method. Unfortunately, iCloud was never designed for this so who know how long that will take. On the other hand, Safelog has both a PC and a MAC platform and supports both iOS and Android portable devices. Personally, I like the Safelog user interface better but that is a personal decision. Both programs allow for the import of any CSV logfile created by another logbook program. A third, and web-based only, choice is ZuluLog. It is pretty good but not in the same league as LogTen pro and Safelog.

Mostly all the major applications have a demo capability whereby you can set up the program, input some data and see how it works for you. The notable exception is Logten Pro. Personally, I think that is a big deficiency. They have some YouTube videos but not a working demo that you can download or play with on the web.

A note on Logbook Pro. Some of you like it, some don't. The big problem with Logbook Pro is that it uses very old technology as their software base. I used Logbook Pro in 1999 and it hasn't changed much since then. (As a matter of fact, in 1987 I was using a program that looked very similar to the way Logbook Pro looks now without the graphical UI components). They have added some graphical elements without changing the base technology which has led to a unstable (in my opinion) and visually unappealing product. Their existing product is version 1.6. That tells me they have had one major version change in 13 years. From a software development standpoint, that is scary. To me, that is reason enough not to use it aside from the functional limitations.

We looked at some other logbook software programs and ultimately came to the conclusion that you get what you pay for. The free or less expensive products just don't have the functionality of the higher-end products.

For those of you that are solely using a portable device for your logs (iPad, iPhone) please make sure you are backing up your data somewhere and I don't mean by using iTunes. Losing the data especially for professional pilots is nothing short of a catastrophe.

Suggestion: If you already have a MAC, I'd go with Logten Pro. If you are PC-based, I'd choose SafeLog but that's just me.

EMAW 08-24-2013 07:38 PM

You do NOT need a MAC. Any apple product will work with LTP as a stand alone. It is, however easier to print from a mac, but it can be done with an iPAD or iPHONE.

Lucky8888 08-25-2013 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by EMAW (Post 1469647)
You do NOT need a MAC. Any apple product will work with LTP as a stand alone. It is, however easier to print from a mac, but it can be done with an iPAD or iPHONE.

Oh yeah, that's a good solution for the average user (NOT). One could also run virtualization but this doesn't print with Windows ether. Again, this isn't a typical environment for the average user.

Mason32 08-27-2013 07:11 AM

APDL
 
Airline Pilot Daily Logbook is a product of LogbookPro and the updated version is in beta testing. It will blow the doors off anything else for airline pilots. Duty times, legality alerts, pay computation are just a few things you have to see to believe.
After close to 26k hours, this is the program I wish I had when younger.
The beta testing should be done soon and then it will be publicly available.

RgrMurdock 08-27-2013 10:56 AM

I've seen SafeLog. It's a very nice program. But I have not seen the Airline Pilot Daily Logbook. Anyone have any experience with both? I will probably be purchasing something in the next month or two. I also have PC/android devices so logten pro is not an option.

dash8 10-05-2013 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by fly1 (Post 1362619)
Want to make sure I have this straight: If I pay for logbook pro for my pc, and also download the free android app- you have to pay an annual fee for the cloud service in order to sync the two?

Is it possible to go old school and use a usb cable to connect to your pc to sync between the two?


not if neal can find a way to monetize and screw more people

oh wait, he already excels at that....


are there any decent android replacements for apdl? i refuse to give nc any of my money,
but i'll gladly pay a reasonable fee for another redbook app that lets you import text schedules

jrsx99 10-05-2013 05:49 PM

So, I am a 1,200 hr CFI. I recently purchased LogBookPro about 6 months ago when I retired my first and only paper log book with about 900 hrs total on the last page. I took the time to enter every single flight from my paper log into the LBP program. Since then, all my time has been logged strictly digitally in the program. Backed up regularly, but never made any hard copies since making the transition.

I am looking to start interviewing at the regionals in the next few months. So my question is this, what is the best way to print out my digital LogBookPro entries? I know the company offers a "Turn Key Printing and Binding Service" but its pretty pricey. Any better suggestions on printing it out myself and making it look presentable for interviewing?

Do the regionals (or any airlines) view or treat digital log books any differently?


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