Electronic logbook recs
 

Thinking about going to a electronic log. Does anyone recommend a good one to try?

LogTen Pro for Apple products

Logbook Pro for PC's


There are some online ones but I've used both of these and they do everything you would ever need from a logbook...

I second LogTen Pro. I've used Logbook Pro before, LogTen is miles ahead in so many ways.

100% agree

Hands down LogTen Pro..I have it on my Mac and on my iPhone. I use the iPhone while I'm flying. I will pull up the OOOI times from the ACARS and update my book instantly. Then I will sync with my Macbook for greater security.

No question - LOGBOOK PRO!

Is LogTen Pro available for PC?

If so, is it just too glitchy?

No LogTen for Windows thats why I mentioned LogBook Pro in the first place.

Any chance logTen pro will ever be out for PC?

I don't think so.

Logbook Pro is probably the best $50 I've spent in my life. When I need to put totals on job applications or on my resume I can just click a button and get my totals for the last however many days, months or years. It can sort by aircraft too which made filling out airline apps really simple. It also keeps track of currency, and you can add new columns for whatever you want. I have a column that keeps track of point to point cross country time as well as 50+ mile cross country time for instance.

I think my favorite feature is that whenever I finish a page in my paper logbook I can cross check the totals with logbook pro before I write them down in pen. It's really helped me clean up my logbook and it makes pin pointing the errors really easy.

Logbook pro seems to be the norm, but it can get really expensive with the $50 for the base, $90 for the pro, and there are extras that you can add on to suit your tastes.

I've used both LogTen Pro and Logbook Pro--both are good. To me, LogTen's interface, syncing, and reports are what set it ahead of Logbook Pro.

What I haven't found (yet) is a binder that doesn't look like some godawful high school arts and crafts project. All of the binders I've seen are cheap leather, with tacky gold trim; it more or less looks like someone went to Staples, bought a $35 chart case, cut it up, and turned it into an electronic logbook binder.

The only binder that ever caught my eye was the NC Old World binder which, for whatever reason, they opted to stop producing.

http://www.nc-software.com/Assets/Pr...ont-Angled.jpg

Throw some 35/40lb eggshell/tan paper in the printer, get Kinkos to cut and punch the paper, and it's a done deal.

http://logbooksolutions.com/uploads/...31/8980074.jpg

I almost threw up.

how so?

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It's Mac-only so it MUST be better. :rolleyes:

The interface for starters. I always thought Logbook Pro looked and felt like a 'fancy' Excel spreadsheet. LogTen Pro is an actual program, it looks and acts like it. I know I'm probably arguing aesthetics, but it makes a difference IMO.

In addition to that, the amount of reports available is amazing. You can print out an 8710 right from the program. On AirlineApps? It has a report for that, all you have to do is click "AirlineApps Report" and it spills all your times out for you to fill right in. No legwork to do at all. There are hundreds of available reports and logbook formats that are available with a single click. All are available on the iPhone app too, so you can update your times on the 8710 at the sim, or shoot out a current resume on the road.

There are many other little things that make a difference, but the iPhone integration is the most important to me. I can plug times into LogTen Pro for the iPhone each leg. During the trip, I can see at a snapshot how we're doing on 30/7, duty time and other 'time out' parameters. They are even programmable to adhere to more restrictive union contract duty/flight times. When I get home from a trip, all I have to do is be on the same wireless network as my MacBook and sync my iPhone up, all times are transferred.

The new version coming out soon will have a lot more goodies in it, I was just looking at it on the Coradine Aviation site. Can't wait for the upgrade to come out.

I know I probably sound like a walking advertisement, but this program has really simplified and revolutionized the way I keep a logbook. I don't even keep a written log anymore. It's saved so much time and work, especially when filling out AirlineApps, an 8710 or just logging your flight time.

Looks like you have to buy LogTen every year??? Wow! I see people complaining that recently purchased and now Coradine updated their apps such that people no longer can update their existing apps on the App Store. So you have to pay $150/year for the desktop app, and $49/$79 every year to get an update to the iPhone/iPad apps?

End Of The Road / Problems / Discussion Area - Coradine Aviation Support

Umm, no thanks!

Not true. You only pay if you want to upgrade to the next version. The same way you would pay if you want to go from Microsoft Office 2007 to 2011. Updates within the version platform are free. I have never paid anything year to year unless I want to upgrade to another version.

Seems like there are a lot of LogTen supporters out there. I'd like to offer an alternative that I use on my iPhone. An APP developed by a CAL pilot called FltCrewiLog is only $20 (one time) and works great. Best part is that it will automatically connect to CrewTrac and download my pairings so all I have to do is fill in the OOOI's and approaches. Then I export to a generic CSV file. I upload those files to Logbook Pro, but any spreadsheet program will work fine.

Personally, I love Safelog http:// http://www.SafelogWeb.com/PilotTellAPilot/Default.aspx?it=aW52aXRlcj0xOTM1NHxoaWRlaW52aXRlcj 10cnVl

Best logging program i've used. Simple interface, ability to use SafelogWeb (so recruiters can see your logbook on the Internet) and it's android and pc based. Best by far.

That's a leased product I believe, you have to pay every X year(s) or you're locked out of your data, I heard you can't even export or access it if you don't pay up?

I used that for a while as well. It isn't a bad logbook, but to me it had it's downsides. First off, you can export your logbook and keep you own backups but you have to do it while you have an active account. The real turn off for me though was the iPhone app. It was easy to use and it did sync automatically, but it requires an active internet connection to enter ANY data. This means that you can't update your logbook at cruise, you have to wait till you're on the ground which is when I'm typically most busy. It also doesn't have any sort of import function for pairings so you have to build every flight manually which gets a bit tedious on the iPhone.

Sorry, but I'm new to the Android market. Any suggestions for the Samsung Galaxy S lll?

I use Logbook Pro for Android and absolutely satisfied.

Not to just come in late and all but I'm a Mac guy and iPhone user who's all over log ten.

Baller

If you already have logbook pro, and aren't against spending some money for the APDL (Airline Pilot's Daily Logbook/Red book replacement), I would recommend that over using the logbook pro android version. APDL takes a bit of setting up, but once you have it done it's an excellent program that keeps track of your pay, rigs, rest requirements, etc. There are only 2 versions available since what's his name at Logbook Pro seems to think that people only use either Palm or Windows mobile nowadays, but there is a way around that. You have to allow side loading apps, and you download something called StyleTap, which is basically a palm pilot emulator. Unfortunately, it costs more money, but it will allow you to use APDL again on either iOS or Android devices. Logbook Pro, paired with APDL, is one of the best logbook options in my opinion.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

+1 for logbook pro on android.

the biggest problem though, is that the mobile software doesn't track your time limits. You have to go home and sync your PC before it works. Pretty stupid, but otherwise, a very good app.

Right here on APC there is a free spreadsheet program that was created by a pilot. Although it might not be perfect, you can customize it to suit your needs. It takes some time and effort, but I was able to print out a nice logbook to present during my interview.
It hasn't been updated since 2007, but it still works just fine for me.
You can find it here ...

Airline Pilot Central - Pilot E-Logbook

I'm another +1 for logbook pro. If you end up going with them use referal code 252 or this link: https://a.nc-software.com/aw.aspx?A=252

and coupon code: SN1012

Should save you a few bucks.

LogTen Pro is Awesome! I just uploaded 14 years of flying from an Excel spreadsheet. The customer service is awesome. Very nice tools to figure out all the different types of hours totals that airlines want for applications.

I have a 5 year old, used Macbook Pro w/Lion that I use it on. Works great! The only down side is I will have to pay additional money to add it to my iPad. I still think it's worth it!

Out of those who use electronic logbooks, how many keep their paper ones up to date? I put all my old flights (leg by leg) into the electronic version and the old paper ones just gather dust these days. I even brought just the iPad with LogTen on it to the type ride and only had a couple questions on how to navigate it.

my paper logbook is collecting cobwebs

I do. If you ever try for an overseas job they're going to want to see paper, especially in the third world. Keeping the old logbooks up will serve you well.

What are some examples of companies that want a written logbook? How is a signed print off any different than a signed written logbook (other than the print version likely has no errors compared to a written logbook)?

Export it all to PDF's. merge the files; print at FedEx Office with binding and covers. Cheap and easy with logbookpro. My nephew did it, made his own fancy cover page, TOC, several of the reports, then the detailed logbook. Even imported a signature file that signed all pages.
LogbookPro impressed the folks at B6.
He's applying to Delta. Finally realized Blue isn't a final career stop either. Regional style retirement and almost worthless health insurance. With no union on property it really is mercy of management who have been giving themselves 24% to 66% raises.

From LogTen Pro, I printed mine on my HP printer (8.5 x 11)in fastdraft mode... double sided. I made a homemade binder using a couple of heavy duty opaque plastic book covers and two hole punch and fastening devices from office max. I have about 10-15$ invested in paper, ink, and misc materials. I thought it turned out pretty nice. Much better than sorting through 3 of my original logbooks that are NOT very neat and organized. I used it for an interview. No questions were asked.

I'm wondering this too. A few years ago, Emirates had no problem at all with a hard copy of my e-log (in fact, they seemed to prefer it along with the summary I provided them).

Are you guys that are updating several years worth of flights doing it all or just one big entry of what you have now? If you do it from day one and notice errors, how do you notate that in your paper log? Just where you left off put a note saying updated throughout and here is new times?

Binder I use
 

I found this at flybystore. Its 100% leather and looks really sharp. I like how it looks like the Jeppesend Pro Logbook!

The Professional Pilot Electronic Logbook Binder BROWN/GOLD