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Kellwolf 10-20-2011 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1072643)
You sure your not looking at Nov 10? Looked to me the average was about 15 days off... only when you got to the bottom at each base did you see 11 and 12... I didnt look at MSP or MEM though.

Really? I bid about halfway up in JFK, and I've only got 11 days off. Same with most of the people on the same "page" as me on the PBS awards. Even going up two pages, you see guys with a whopping 13 days off when they were getting 16-18. Basically, we're paying the price for the company having to do all the training and shifting people around. I'm pretty sure the PBS guys did their best. We simply just don't have enough pilots where they need to be is what it looks like. I love how PBS dropped a one day trip that consists of a CLT turn in on me.....with a 6:30 am show. Gee, thanks. I don't commute or anything. It's followed by a 4 day trip.

I forsee the suck continuing for the near future as guys are pulled off the line to be trained in their new positions. December is gonna suck just as much, Jan and Feb might be a little better, and from March on, we're all gonna be hosed unless they can fire guys through the training pipeline. Look at a bunch of the guys that bid back to MEM 200 CA, and they won't even be flying the line. A lot are check airmen that were in the sim rather than commuting to DTW or JFK. I doubt they'll give that up to go sit reserve. Nice to see post merger 9E still has the same issues it's always had.

GliderCFI 10-20-2011 10:13 PM

Of course the lines were bad, gotta make room for all the colgan guys to come in on top...

jayray2 10-21-2011 12:09 AM

Exactly why we should have pushed for 12 or even 13 days off. I can't believe we had to fight among ourselves about how low we could go with people arguing they wanted to be able to only have 6 days off a month. The argument should have been whether we wanted 13 or 14 days off, instead we wasted our time trying to get less days off. We can't have our cake and eat it too. Which is it, do you want days off or do you want to work yourself into an early grave?

mooney 10-21-2011 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1072897)
Exactly why we should have pushed for 12 or even 13 days off. I can't believe we had to fight among ourselves about how low we could go with people arguing they wanted to be able to only have 6 days off a month. The argument should have been whether we wanted 13 or 14 days off, instead we wasted our time trying to get less days off. We can't have our cake and eat it too. Which is it, do you want days off or do you want to work yourself into an early grave?

14 day off min? While we're at it, our FO and CA pay should be greater than FedEx. I mean, we work harder than those guys. Ever see them fly 20 legs in 4 days?????

plasticpi 10-21-2011 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 1072889)
Of course the lines were bad, gotta make room for all the colgan guys to come in on top...

Don't feed the troll... don't feed the troll...

Will 10-21-2011 06:06 AM

Lines are awsome at XJ, mostly 15+ days off.

labbats 10-21-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Will (Post 1072951)
Lines are awsome at XJ, mostly 15+ days off.

People like you are the ones that get bid around. You stay classy bud.

Will 10-21-2011 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1072975)
People like you are the ones that get bid around. You stay classy bud.

I am just stating the facts here Labbats but I guess in your world everything should be negative. The other question is? If you are flying an MD-80 you shouldn't even care what our lines look like MOVE ON nothing to see here.

Wingnutxj 10-21-2011 09:50 AM

XJ FO, 16 days off with sim and groundschool. But I will be on FMLA for the month, or until I get my Q classdate. I will have the holiday off!!!

labbats 10-21-2011 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Will (Post 1072993)
I am just stating the facts here Labbats but I guess in your world everything should be negative. The other question is? If you are flying an MD-80 you shouldn't even care what our lines look like MOVE ON nothing to see here.

You aren't just stating facts you're rubbing their noses in it. I haven't always flown MD80s, I used to be in the regionals and have several friends still there.


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