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Old 11-04-2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
This sort of churn is actually beneficial for DAL in the long run...uprooting crews encourages major-eligible CA's to bail instead of settling into a comfortable situation to become expensive and pesky regional lifers.

Is DAL smart enough to actually factor this in? Who knows.
Although that's a nice collateral/downrange effect, I SERIOUSLY doubt the bean counters at DAL DCI care about what the seniority demographic is a XYZ DelCon carrier. ALL the DCI carrier is a line item cost, PERIOD. DAL management couldn't care less how the DelCon carrier achieves that cost.

Being a part of the process at multiple carriers multiple times, the mainline partner simply didn't care. All we heard from our managements was "you pilots are too expensive and need to get the costs down", so it effects EVERYBODY.

And don't forget, mechanics, FA's, etc are part of that equation as well.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 12:24 PM
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Looking at January schedule. You can see Compass doing SLC-SNA (3x day) and SLC-BZN. Interesting.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
Looking at January schedule. You can see Compass doing SLC-SNA (3x day) and SLC-BZN. Interesting.
Where can you see the dci schedule?
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Old 11-06-2011 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
True but it causes immense additional costs and delays/cancelations by pulling a company so far from its crew/maintenance bases. Now if Delta wants to operate in a much more expensive way for the sake of avoiding a strike that hasn't even come close to happening since Comair in 01.... Well no wonder the passengers see right through the customer first B.S. they have been peddling.
Customers sure seem to be buying though, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of profit each quarter. Does Delta have enough money to keep uprooting the regionals if they so choose? Sounds like the answer is YES.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
Looking at January schedule. You can see Compass doing SLC-SNA (3x day) and SLC-BZN. Interesting.
We are also serving ONT, DFW, MCI, and IAH (IAH-SLC). According to what's on Delta Net as the proposed schedule. Most of it starts in Feb. though.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:11 PM
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If there is one thing I've learned from working for a DCI carrier it's this...take whatever you think is going to happen.......now take the complete opposite of that and thats what will actually happen...the more it makes sense, the more Delta will do the opposite, pure and simple...
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Old 11-07-2011 | 03:57 AM
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Why do we even think there is going to be a shuffle?
I havent heard or seen anything indicating that there is going to be a major shift in flying yet. Most of the time, I hear that the "marketing hours" arent complete until half way thru the previous month...
This could be as minor as moving regional flying from JFK to LGA; and having more flights flown by mainline like DL is doing in ATL.
From a 9E perspective, MEM has barely any flying left as compared to what we used to fly there. I would be suprised to see MEM go but, I wouldnt be suprised to see us move to LGA from JFK - Or our union sign yet another LOA and screw us with a co-terminal base.
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Old 11-07-2011 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rama04
Most of the time, I hear that the "marketing hours" arent complete until half way thru the previous month...
Comair pilot bid packs come out around the 1st for the next month. Delta must give Comair their flying long before the timeframe you're hearing.
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Old 11-07-2011 | 04:50 AM
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Egg nog time.
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Old 11-07-2011 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by xjtguy
Although that's a nice collateral/downrange effect, I SERIOUSLY doubt the bean counters at DAL DCI care about what the seniority demographic is a XYZ DelCon carrier. ALL the DCI carrier is a line item cost, PERIOD. DAL management couldn't care less how the DelCon carrier achieves that cost.

Being a part of the process at multiple carriers multiple times, the mainline partner simply didn't care. All we heard from our managements was "you pilots are too expensive and need to get the costs down", so it effects EVERYBODY.

And don't forget, mechanics, FA's, etc are part of that equation as well.
But they do know why and its the reason DAL doesn't want to own Comair and AA is getting rid of Eagle.
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