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sinsilvia666 10-23-2011 07:46 PM

Colgan 3407 crash...Chief Pilot Emails
 
Lawyer says emails confirm pilot’s shortcomings; part of lawsuit over NY crash into home - The Washington Post

Boomer 10-23-2011 08:37 PM

Good thing there's a pilot shortage.

Otherwise airlines would start being picky about who they let upgrade.

jayray2 10-23-2011 09:05 PM

Why did they decide to upgrade him if they didn't think he was ready? Did they just need pilots, any pilots to captain their planes?

FlyingNasaForm 10-24-2011 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1074055)
Good thing there's a pilot shortage.

Otherwise airlines would start being picky about who they let upgrade.

You mean union would be picky about who they let upgrade.

Wingtips 10-24-2011 02:36 AM

its colgan, have you met chuck? No surprise at all.

afterburn81 10-24-2011 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1074063)
Why did they decide to upgrade him if they didn't think he was ready? Did they just need pilots, any pilots to captain their planes?


Do you or have you ever worked for a regional? Here is the logic: If you are willing to work under the crappy rules and insulting pay, we will make sure that you stay employed as a pilot in what ever position your desire so long as your seniority can hold it. Even if you show every sign that you are clearly not pilot material and that you will probably kill people one day. We have insurance for that.

What regionals are afraid of is the artificial pilot shortage. There are less people willing to work for a regional than there are qualified pilots. There will always be people to fly jets. However people are starting to realize that regional airlines are a horrible stepping stone.

Luv2Rotate 10-24-2011 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1074085)
its colgan, have you met chuck? No surprise at all.

Well its a good thing Chuck is gone :D

Bartok 10-24-2011 07:08 AM

So, he's not good enough to fly a Q400, but he is good enough to fly a Saab.......

Makes zero sense.

RgrMurdock 10-24-2011 07:54 AM

I believe the article stated the Q400 holds "about 50 people." I don't think any of the article makes sense. The whole idea of "letting him upgrade" is ridiculous. If he passes upgrade, he passes. If he fails he fails. This was just a case of someone slipping through the cracks. He got a lot of failures but not enough in a row to wash out. Unfortunately, there's pilots like these at every carrier.

jdalbrec 10-24-2011 08:40 AM

It's just typical reporting, not really any clue what they're talking about. Facts and terminology are all wrong. He shouldn't have even been at the company by the time this happened, but he did pass the transition training, so he was "qualified". Not qualified, would mean that they just let a Saab captain walk up to the Q and start flying that instead.


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