That 'idiot' lawyer is doing exactly what he is PAID to do by the people who are bringing the law suit. I'm no fan of lawyers in general (except for the popular case where you need one yourself), but hate the system right along with the players. :cool:

USMCFLYR

True. Along the lines of when a cop is involved in a beating or shooting and it comes out later that they have a history of complaints and/or documented reports from superiors of using excessive force or other possible disciplinary/following procedure type issues.

It njt only helps to point the finger, but sensationalize th story as well.

Somebody who has passed 20 checkrides and busted one along the way probably had a bad day.


Somebody who takes multiple attempts to pass one checkride probably just got lucky the day he passed.

1-2 checkride busts can happen to almost anyone...but at some point more failures than that really starts to become difficult to rationalize. Maybe the person has aptitude and just took a while to dial in his attitude...but most folks get their attitude fixed after the first failure.

Eventually you start to suspect a lack of aptitude, which cannot be fixed or a more serious attitude problem.

Is eagle too picky? Probably so, although I heard they loosened up a little recently.

But should Renslow have been a 121 CA? I don't think so. You have to draw the line somewhere...repetitive checkrides until you get lucky makes no sense.

Why do you say that? What happened to them in the wake of 3407?

In my case I had a good friend take the same check ride with the same examiner only to also be failed twice. AFAIK he hasn't passed anybody on their CFI rides with him. so that's two checkrides a person for the last few years. At some point who's fault is it?

I blame society.

The "You only need to know 70% to pass" and "What's the gouge" attitude has led to this.

The artistry of being a pilot is sadly a dying thing.

Master your craft, don't just wear the uniform for the fat chicks.

+1, Agreed. Everyone wants to do well, but unfortunately it's human nature to try and find the easy way. I can recall someone in training just raised their hand and said..."yea, that's great but what's actually going to be on test?" This is when it really becomes sad; when people that consider aviation to be their passion, start to fall into this mindset. You really can't know too much or be too proficient.

Speaking of CFI, I believe we call the above post "rationalization"

The last thing I would want to hear from a pilot interviewing for a regional job is that it is the "examiners fault."

I don't know - but are the DPE's stats available for review?

USMCFLYR

Was waiting for somebody to say that. I'm not saying it's all his fault etc. etc. but.... it's ok though I cant cry to much I'm in a great place in life right now.