Reserve at Express Jet?
 

What are the types of reserve and their callout times?

Is there ready reserve?

Long call reserve?

I'm trying to figure out how close to the airport I have to be when I get done with training.

Cheers!

Boze

There's two types of reserve: Long Call and Short Call. Long Call is a 12 hour call out and Short Call is a 2 hour call out.

There is ready reserve (they call it ARC...Airport Reserve Crew or something like that), but you can only be assigned it 6 times in a bid period and you can't be assigned it two days in a row or on you last day unless you waive those rules. Also you can't be junior manned to sit ARC. They are 4 hour sits and you get 4 hours of credit for doing it.

I'm on reserve in CLE, but hopefully I'll be holding a relief line in the next couple months. I was hired May of 2011.

Nice, thanx for the info bro, and great question boze... right seat, wht is the difference between reserve and a relief line?

Do you get paid regularly hourly rate for reserve? Whether it be long call, short call, or airport ready?

Reserve vs relief line: reserve is just a callout time. You dont know what you are flying but you instead know when you are phone liable. We have an aggressive pickup window which allows for reserves to pick a trip out of open time the day prior. So if you see a valuable trip or a trip with a cool overnight you can try to pick it up vs leaving your trip up to chance. That is really the only chance you have of getting what you want.

A relief line is generally for the guys that are almost holding a hard line. A hard line means you find out your next months schedule around the 10th of the month and it is able to be traded around. A relief line is built during the secondary bid held every month around the 20th of the month. They build lines out of the trips left in open time from the first bid. It is a crap shoot to say the least. You can request weekends off, maximize vacation, holidays off... but it is a gamble if you will get them. They throw trips on your schedule until they are happy and you get what you get. You can trade those trips in the SLIW (secondary line improvement window) and you do have better control over where you go, when you are off, and more protections for pay etc.

Once you hit the line there will be time to look at the ALPA New Pilots Manual. I forget the proper name for it but it is on the union website and explains a lot of the day to day stuff that never seems to get covered in ground school. Dont stress too much about bidding. On your first trip just ask the captain to go over bidding and ask as many questions as you need too. Everybody here is pretty cool and we were all new once so we understand where you are coming from. Good luck

If you show up for a trip you are pay protected for that trip. If they do not use you then you get 75 hrs of pay for the month but if you fly more then 75 then you get paid the additional flight time on the middle of the month paycheck. You get per diem only when you are on a trip and it adds up to around 225-300 a month tax free if it is for multi-day trips. It is all in the contract and will be fairly straightforward.

A line holder yes. Reserve No.

For reserves you are pay protected once you show for the pairing. Lineholders are pay protected once it is on their schedule. It is in the contract page 20. I know it is a complete jumble of info but when you are broke you go after every penny you have coming.

That is also why they never put the entire pairing on a reserves schedule. They keep revising it and adding turns, overnights.

I'm still fairly new but that has not been my experience so far.

Legacy Expressjet or the new one? ASA is MUCH different on reserve.

That would be correct. There's ONLY one provision of the ASA CBA as it pertains to reserves that's better than the XJT CBA.

All hiring right now is on the XJT side. ASA is still under their own contract with a completely different system.

And what would that be?

Ask and you shall receive;

So their long call guys can be converted to short call like ours but theirs aren't allowed to be assigned ready reserve like ours can? I hope we keep that in the new contract.

Will the hiring for XJT stop after Dec. like everyone said or will it most likely continue throughout next year?

Yea, long call reserves cannot be assigned ready, even when converted to short call. That is the one and ONLY bonus to long call reserve. The company has settled into how they control reserves. In the first few years reserve was actually pretty good as the company didn't use there little benefits built into the contract. If you were awarded long call you could almost certainly sit on 12 hr call all month long. If you were awarded short call you could expect 1 or 2 ready reserve periods, maybe a few more.

In the last year the company has begun to take full advantage of anything in the contract that benefits them, even if they don't need it operationally. If you are awarded short call you can almost guarantee 4-6 ready reserve periods, often before half of the month is over. If you are awarded long call you will be converted to short call 5-7 times per month. Even if there are a TON of reserve that day they'll still convert you because they can.

I REALLY hope in the joint CBA that the number of ready reserve day's and short call conversions is cut at least in half because it is ridiculous what they're allowed to do right now. Those sort of things in the CBA were intended for IROP day's and maybe holiday's but the company operates normally off of those clauses.

As the below states, yep, that's the case.

Well that's just blasphemy right there. Because according to some other people on the pre-SOC/ASA side, ANYTHING that is going to make the pilots life better will make the company NOT cost competitive. Therefore, losing ALL flying the very next day a CBA get's signed (sarcasm).