Reserve at Express Jet?
#1
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What are the types of reserve and their callout times?
Is there ready reserve?
Long call reserve?
I'm trying to figure out how close to the airport I have to be when I get done with training.
Cheers!
Boze
Is there ready reserve?
Long call reserve?
I'm trying to figure out how close to the airport I have to be when I get done with training.
Cheers!
Boze
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There's two types of reserve: Long Call and Short Call. Long Call is a 12 hour call out and Short Call is a 2 hour call out.
There is ready reserve (they call it ARC...Airport Reserve Crew or something like that), but you can only be assigned it 6 times in a bid period and you can't be assigned it two days in a row or on you last day unless you waive those rules. Also you can't be junior manned to sit ARC. They are 4 hour sits and you get 4 hours of credit for doing it.
I'm on reserve in CLE, but hopefully I'll be holding a relief line in the next couple months. I was hired May of 2011.
There is ready reserve (they call it ARC...Airport Reserve Crew or something like that), but you can only be assigned it 6 times in a bid period and you can't be assigned it two days in a row or on you last day unless you waive those rules. Also you can't be junior manned to sit ARC. They are 4 hour sits and you get 4 hours of credit for doing it.
I'm on reserve in CLE, but hopefully I'll be holding a relief line in the next couple months. I was hired May of 2011.
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From: e190
Reserve vs relief line: reserve is just a callout time. You dont know what you are flying but you instead know when you are phone liable. We have an aggressive pickup window which allows for reserves to pick a trip out of open time the day prior. So if you see a valuable trip or a trip with a cool overnight you can try to pick it up vs leaving your trip up to chance. That is really the only chance you have of getting what you want.
A relief line is generally for the guys that are almost holding a hard line. A hard line means you find out your next months schedule around the 10th of the month and it is able to be traded around. A relief line is built during the secondary bid held every month around the 20th of the month. They build lines out of the trips left in open time from the first bid. It is a crap shoot to say the least. You can request weekends off, maximize vacation, holidays off... but it is a gamble if you will get them. They throw trips on your schedule until they are happy and you get what you get. You can trade those trips in the SLIW (secondary line improvement window) and you do have better control over where you go, when you are off, and more protections for pay etc.
Once you hit the line there will be time to look at the ALPA New Pilots Manual. I forget the proper name for it but it is on the union website and explains a lot of the day to day stuff that never seems to get covered in ground school. Dont stress too much about bidding. On your first trip just ask the captain to go over bidding and ask as many questions as you need too. Everybody here is pretty cool and we were all new once so we understand where you are coming from. Good luck
A relief line is generally for the guys that are almost holding a hard line. A hard line means you find out your next months schedule around the 10th of the month and it is able to be traded around. A relief line is built during the secondary bid held every month around the 20th of the month. They build lines out of the trips left in open time from the first bid. It is a crap shoot to say the least. You can request weekends off, maximize vacation, holidays off... but it is a gamble if you will get them. They throw trips on your schedule until they are happy and you get what you get. You can trade those trips in the SLIW (secondary line improvement window) and you do have better control over where you go, when you are off, and more protections for pay etc.
Once you hit the line there will be time to look at the ALPA New Pilots Manual. I forget the proper name for it but it is on the union website and explains a lot of the day to day stuff that never seems to get covered in ground school. Dont stress too much about bidding. On your first trip just ask the captain to go over bidding and ask as many questions as you need too. Everybody here is pretty cool and we were all new once so we understand where you are coming from. Good luck
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From: e190
If you show up for a trip you are pay protected for that trip. If they do not use you then you get 75 hrs of pay for the month but if you fly more then 75 then you get paid the additional flight time on the middle of the month paycheck. You get per diem only when you are on a trip and it adds up to around 225-300 a month tax free if it is for multi-day trips. It is all in the contract and will be fairly straightforward.
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If you show up for a trip you are pay protected for that trip. If they do not use you then you get 75 hrs of pay for the month but if you fly more then 75 then you get paid the additional flight time on the middle of the month paycheck. You get per diem only when you are on a trip and it adds up to around 225-300 a month tax free if it is for multi-day trips. It is all in the contract and will be fairly straightforward.
A line holder yes. Reserve No.
Last edited by johnso29; 11-30-2011 at 06:50 AM.
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From: e190
For reserves you are pay protected once you show for the pairing. Lineholders are pay protected once it is on their schedule. It is in the contract page 20. I know it is a complete jumble of info but when you are broke you go after every penny you have coming.
That is also why they never put the entire pairing on a reserves schedule. They keep revising it and adding turns, overnights.
That is also why they never put the entire pairing on a reserves schedule. They keep revising it and adding turns, overnights.
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