Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 1097258)

So...uhh... how about that next PNCL vacancy? I'm within 60 numbers of upgrade, think it'll happen within the next year? Any new rumors of the next vacancy?

Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 1097258)

So...uhh... how about that next PNCL vacancy? I'm within 60 numbers of upgrade, think it'll happen within the next year? Any new rumors of the next vacancy?

Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 1097310)

The point of having one huge multi-class bid with class dates all the way out through May was to prevent the company from having to do multiple realignments, displacements, and vacancies in succession with all the reductions in flying that were going to happen. 11-09 has covered (supposedly) all training and staffing needs through May, thus there shouldn't be another vacancy till around that time. I don't even know if they are allowed to do another vacancy posting with class dates that would start before the class dates from 11-09.

Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1097162)

Didn't you get the memo? Just a few of the larger bullet points: Your choice of 900 bases (left seat of course), a Pinnacle or Mesaba pilot (can be Captain or FO, your choice) to act as a "bag boy" for you, and a month of unrestricted access to one of Phil Trenary's 3 vacation homes (sorry, the liquor cabinet will be locked)

Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1097655)

I just talked to a CP the other night and he said they have lost roughly 14 people per month since SLI has gone into place, and he said they want to hire 200 more pilots till next summer, I would anticipate another award at some point in the coming months...

Originally Posted by seahawker01 (Post 1099429)

From planning April (if not sooner) is the target of the next bid. Union says March.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1096908)

Approach, as defined by loc active and capture. BELOW 10k, it was definitely not sterile. Go back and read the CVR.


Stop making excuses. Both had afternoon checkins. Both had their first turn cancelled, and their first operating leg was the BUF accident leg!

It's insulting for you to insinuate that it was the last leg as if it's something they are now tired for. It was their first operating leg for the day. Now had they done a 13.5 hr duty 5-leg day (like what I do at 9E and have done for over 4 years) and this accident happened on leg 5, I could understand. Amount of rest involved? Both had over well above min rest, in fact, almost 20+ hrs rest. But both commuted, one throughout the entire NIGHT! How can you show up to work dead tired and check in for what could be a 16 hr duty day, when your body was up all night on Fedex planes? They set themselve up for failure. The Captain, for his constant disapprovals in checkrides both pre and post Colgan, lying on his application, and the FO, for commuting throughout the night and then flying while she was obviously sick. Poor girl was too poor to call in sick to get a hotel room, that's an industry problem, so I don't blame her there. But still.

Lets be honest. If you wanted to make laws to prevent this particular crash, it's not the rest or duty rules. As already stated, afternoon checkins with plenty of rest beforehand, and it was their first operating leg for the day. Their tiredness was not due to their flight schedule that day. It was how they got there. How about a law prohibiting commuting in the entire night (before check in) on cargo carriers? How about a law that punishes you for lying on applications for failed checkrides? Obviously, the current ones didn't stop that Captain. How about a law for not flying when obviously sick? That didn't stop her either.