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jetstream11 12-19-2011 06:36 PM

Attention Regional Pilots
 
This could be our opportunity to stand up for ourselves and the future generations of regional pilots.

We need to make a statement that we are done being thrown into the fire every time there has to be cuts. WE are not the ones responsible for the failing of these companies.

I hope 100% of PNCL pilots vote NO to Pay Cuts. I hope that 100% of other regionals vote NO to Pay Cuts.

As some background I will probably be furloughed if PNCL declares BK. I understand that, I'm just sick of my fellow pilots, colleagues, and friends getting shafted in this industry.

Colgan Pilot 12-19-2011 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by jetstream11 (Post 1104531)
This could be our opportunity to stand up for ourselves and the future generations of regional pilots.

We need to make a statement that we are done being thrown into the fire every time there has to be cuts. WE are not the ones responsible for the failing of these companies.

I hope 100% of PNCL pilots vote NO to Pay Cuts. I hope that 100% of other regionals vote NO to Pay Cuts.

As some background I will probably be furloughed if PNCL declares BK. I understand that, I'm just sick of my fellow pilots, colleagues, and friends getting shafted in this industry.

{imagine a pilot on horseback on a grassy hill}

"The airlines may control our lives, but they will never have... OUR CONCESSIONS!!!!!!"

CriticalMach 12-19-2011 07:31 PM

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tom14cat14 12-19-2011 08:57 PM

I just hope we are allowed to vote on it. I hope our mec does not just give it too them.

aviatorpr 12-19-2011 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1104652)
I just hope we are aloud to vote on it. I hope our mec does not just give it too them.

I'm sorry to be the spelling/proper use police, but just like on NFL countdown, "C'Mon Man"

Allowed, to

3GreenKSNA 12-19-2011 09:20 PM

The American public has no idea how little the guy sitting in the right seat of that regional jet makes.
Every time I tell someone I'm an airline pilot they think I'm making $80k or more a year.

I sometimes wonder if ALPA does not want to upset mainline by showing the American public how little their pilots make. Is there a conflict of interest here?

lolwut 12-19-2011 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA (Post 1104664)
The American public has no idea how little the guy sitting in the right seat of that regional jet makes.
Every time I tell someone I'm an airline pilot they think I'm making $80k or more a year.

I sometimes wonder if ALPA does not want to upset mainline by showing the American public how little their pilots make. Is there a conflict of interest here?

It isn't what ALPA does or does not want to do. That implies they care. Which they don't. They're sitting in their office buildings and widebody left seats raking in the cash trying to remember exactly what a "Pinnacle" is.

hesitant 12-19-2011 10:02 PM

Excellent idea. Be professional, and no slang or jargon. Get your message across clearly. You are exactly right about regional pilots taking concessions. You should not have to.

hesitant 12-19-2011 10:06 PM

Thats correct. I had a conversation with some narrow body captains at a major airline and they shared the same idea that you had. ALPA is for the B747-400 captains, and nobody else. If you have ever been in the airline industry, then you know how it works. Management may give a raise to someone, but then they take it from someone else. The little guy is the one subsidizing the big guy-allways.

rickair7777 12-20-2011 04:11 AM

This PNCL business simply highlights how the regional industry is DESIGNED to work. The 9E pilot group collectively pulls themselves out of the gutter to achieve a MODEST increase in compensation and a year later they are facing chapter 11.

Nobody is ever going to get ahead in the regionals...hell, they don't even want you to have a decent middle-class lifestyle. At age 40 when you have a mortgage, two cars, and two kids take a look around you...if more than ten percent of your fellow pilots at your regional look like you then ALL of you are living on borrowed time.

If too many people at your regional are making more than $25K they are going to either file BK or shift the flying to a younger crowd in the long run. There's no future at a regional unless 90% of your peers move on. They can afford a few six-figure grey beards...they need them to fill the training and management ranks, as well as to keep the young bucks under control.


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