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BelowMins 01-30-2012 08:01 AM

Do you check in with the crew when non-reving
 
Ok here's the scenario. You're commuting to work on your company aircraft or the mainline aircraft your company flies for. You're in uniform but you are riding on a non-rev pass. Do you check in with the Captain?

The Juice 01-30-2012 08:15 AM


Ok here's the scenario. You're commuting to work on your company aircraft or the mainline aircraft your company flies for. You're in uniform but you are riding on a non-rev pass. Do you check in with the Captain?
This thread has been done before.

I don't check in because I don't care if another pilot checks in with me when non reving.

You'll get 20 different answers and variations from the next 20 posts.

Southern Fried 01-30-2012 09:06 AM

Our pass travel sucks. If you check-in with me, you'll just be rubbing my face in it. Besides, I'm too busy shooting the sh__ with my FO. Oh, and all that other 'Pilot' stuff...

Seriously, don't check-in unless you're asking for the jumpseat.

Silver02ex 01-30-2012 10:05 AM

I don't check in but, I always thank them as I am walking out if one of them is saying good-bye to the pax.

Al Czervik 01-30-2012 10:08 AM

Only if it's ASA. I need tips on how to be totally awesome.

JetBlast77 01-30-2012 11:19 AM

This is ridiculous. I don't care if you're in the back unless you're JSing. If you check in with the crew when you're not JSing 9 times out of 10 they will either look at you and say "okay...." or make fun of you as you walk back to your seat. The whole point of riding on a pass is so you can relax and just be a regular pax. For us riding on a pass costs zero so the only reason to ride JS is if u need the JS.

The Juice 01-30-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1125911)
This is ridiculous. I don't care if you're in the back unless you're JSing. If you check in with the crew when you're not JSing 9 times out of 10 they will either look at you and say "okay...." or make fun of you as you walk back to your seat. The whole point of riding on a pass is so you can relax and just be a regular pax. For us riding on a pass costs zero so the only reason to ride JS is if u need the JS.

I agree. If I know that getting an open cabin seat will not be an issue, I dress in regular clothes and blend in. The heck with "I want to get my liquids through," I will gladly leave my liquids and buy travel size when I get to my destination.

fatmike69 01-30-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by BelowMins (Post 1125809)
Ok here's the scenario. You're commuting to work on your company aircraft or the mainline aircraft your company flies for. You're in uniform but you are riding on a non-rev pass. Do you check in with the Captain?

No. Doesn't matter what clothes you are wearing, you're just like any other passrider and I don't see any of them checking in with me, nor do I want or expect them to.

Fly782 01-30-2012 12:00 PM

I have actually had a couple guys drill me with questions asking if I was jumping or not ( mainline) and it seems the flight attendants have always drilled me with questions. One even said are you sure your non reving, did you fill out a form? Always ride the same airline and it seems they are quite paranoid.

The Juice 01-30-2012 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1125932)
I have actually had a couple guys drill me with questions asking if I was jumping or not ( mainline) and it seems the flight attendants have always drilled me with questions. One even said are you sure your non reving, did you fill out a form? Always ride the same airline and it seems they are quite paranoid.

Dont wear your uniform when non-reving. Problem solved. Travel size products are cheap

higney85 01-30-2012 12:09 PM

While DH for company business or a commute to work, yes. For personal travel (true non-rev) no, because it's the rare occasion I am going somewhere "fun" and may drink (don't want to be viewed as additional crew).

I just stick my head up there and tell em they have a pilot in the back (commuting) or a crew in the back (DH) and "Thanks for the ride guys".

Fly782 01-30-2012 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1125935)
Dont wear your uniform when non-reving. Problem solved. Travel size products are cheap

Yes very true sir and rightfully so. I bring food with me though. Not a big deal, just an observation.

ysslah 01-30-2012 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1125935)
Dont wear your uniform when non-reving. Problem solved. Travel size products are cheap

I guess you don't want to miss the pat down

squall line 01-30-2012 01:07 PM

And then there's the captain I've flown with who insists all crews check in with him. He instructs FA's to alert him if a pilot boards without "checking in" with him. This guy is a commuter himself! We have had many chats about this and there's no changing his mind about this. Sorry in advance to anyone who has to deal with him.

My opinion, pass travelers,deadheads, nonrev need not check in with the crew.

jws3443 01-30-2012 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1125932)
I have actually had a couple guys drill me with questions asking if I was jumping or not ( mainline) and it seems the flight attendants have always drilled me with questions. One even said are you sure your non reving, did you fill out a form? Always ride the same airline and it seems they are quite paranoid.

That's odd I've never been questioned by them I just smile say hi and blow past them when I'm on the company ticket. I do thank everyone and the captain on the way off though. Jumpseating I say hi to every crew member and their mother haha ya never know what they'll hook you up with (usually just an exta pack of peanuts but hey I'll take it!)

TillerEnvy 01-30-2012 01:37 PM

No...unless its F9 because if you don't it hurts their heavy Airbus egos.

Bolo 01-30-2012 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1126005)
No...unless its F9 because if you don't it hurts their heavy Airbus egos.

Yes, I do because of D-bags like Tiller Envy!

TillerEnvy 01-30-2012 01:41 PM



Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1126005)
No...unless its F9 because if you don't it hurts their heavy Airbus egos.

Yes, I do because of D-bags like Tiller Envy!
Lol! Seriously...that was funny.

Let me rephrase. I don't checkin per se on F9...it's more of a knock on the door and I tell 'em I''m non-revving in the back. I certainly don't ask if I can use my flight benefits.

Vandal 01-30-2012 03:53 PM

Huh, I always say hi regardless of whether it's leisure travel or I am commuting to work.

Jumpseating: "Hey, guys if it is ok I was hoping to ride along in the back/up front here with you guys"

Non-revving: "Hey guys, I am non-revving on this flight if it's ok with you"

Everyone has always been nice and usually say "Thanks a lot for saying hi"
I feel thta always speaking to the pilots helps to foster the fraternity which I feel is unique to our profession. It's nice to shoot the **** for a few seconds too.
Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, if I am flying for free my presence on the airplane is entirely at the discretion of the captain.
I have been doing it for less than a year though, so I am still comparatively new, but I always feel more comfortable knowing I said hi to the flight crew.

blastoff 01-30-2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Vandal (Post 1126102)
"Hey guys, I am non-revving on this flight if it's ok with you"

Do you ask him if its OK that you get a paycheck on the 1st and 15th, or that you get on the company's healthcare plan? Seriously, why the F are you asking someone to use your benefits? Checking in is one thing (Weak but debatable), asking to ride on a pass is just...wow.


Originally Posted by Vandal (Post 1126102)
Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, if I am flying for free my presence on the airplane is entirely at the discretion of the captain.



Outside of jumpseating, its entirely not. The catering company's employees' parents walk on the airplane (For free) without a second glance, why in the hell do you think that as a line pilot you need any kind of permission from the CA to non-rev? It is a benefit of employment.

Jughead 01-30-2012 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Vandal (Post 1126102)
Huh, I always say hi regardless of whether it's leisure travel or I am commuting to work.

Jumpseating: "Hey, guys if it is ok I was hoping to ride along in the back/up front here with you guys"

Non-revving: "Hey guys, I am non-revving on this flight if it's ok with you"

Everyone has always been nice and usually say "Thanks a lot for saying hi"
I feel thta always speaking to the pilots helps to foster the fraternity which I feel is unique to our profession. It's nice to shoot the **** for a few seconds too.
Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, if I am flying for free my presence on the airplane is entirely at the discretion of the captain.
I have been doing it for less than a year though, so I am still comparatively new, but I always feel more comfortable knowing I said hi to the flight crew.

I think you're being overly-nice. You don't have to ask if it's ok to non-rev. Flying for free is a benefit, not a favor being extended by the flight crew. I can assure you gate agents, rampers, buddy passers, flight attendants, etc. aren't asking the Captain for permission.
Do what you feel is right, but you might be going over the top.

B200 Hawk 01-30-2012 04:09 PM

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Vandal 01-30-2012 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1126105)
Do you ask him if its OK that you get a paycheck on the 1st and 15th, or that you get on the company's healthcare plan? Seriously, why the F are you asking someone to use your benefits? Checking in is one thing (Weak but debatable), asking to ride on a pass is just...wow.

Wow indeed. Sorry to get you heated. As I said, I am relatively new and still trying figure it all out. It seems appropriate to ask the captain permission regardless. I hope if I ever ask you I don't get "Why the F are you asking me?!" in front of everyone. I also didn't know it was an issue which got anyone's blood boiling.

Jughead 01-30-2012 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 1126109)

This is awesome. I'm stealing it.

blastoff 01-30-2012 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Vandal (Post 1126110)
Wow indeed. Sorry to get you heated. As I said, I am relatively new and still trying figure it all out. It seems appropriate to ask the captain permission regardless. I hope if I ever ask you I don't get "Why the F are you asking me?!" in front of everyone. I also didn't know it was an issue which got anyone's blood boiling.

I know you're a newb but...

Know your contract, know what you're worth. Don't grovel for things that you've earned.

Frankly I had never heard of anyone "asking" to non-rev...ever, so if it happened face-to-face I probably would have said "welcome" and proceeded to try to figure out what just happened for the next hour. "Hey guys I'm a non-rev" should suffice...or as stated earlier, throw on a polo shirt and say nothing.

People (maybe just me) get heated about such things because we want you to stop being a starry-eyed newbie and become a grizzled veteran as fast as possible to reduce your chance of becoming a lap dog for management.

The Juice 01-30-2012 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1126119)

People (maybe just me) get heated about such things because we want you to stop being a starry-eyed newbie and become a grizzled veteran as fast as possible to reduce your chance of becoming a lap dog for management.

Good line...funny because it is true:D

Vandal 01-30-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1126119)
People (maybe just me) get heated about such things because we want you to stop being a starry-eyed newbie and become a grizzled veteran as fast as possible to reduce your chance of becoming a lap dog for management.

I'm not "starry-eyed". For me, asking to non-rev I feel is showing respect to the captain. How does this make me a pawn to management? Who said I was calling the CEO and begging to non-rev? You don't know anything about me except that I am new and trying to be polite. Thanks to you guys I now see how asking to non-rev is kind of silly, but don't insinuate that doing it will make me some kind of management fan boy. But damn, I wasn't expecting a barrage of "LOL n00b that is retarded why the F would you ever do that?".

SpeedyVagabond 01-30-2012 05:24 PM

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blastoff 01-30-2012 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Vandal (Post 1126152)
Who said I was calling the CEO and begging to non-rev?

That would actually make more sense than asking the Captain.


Originally Posted by Vandal (Post 1126152)
But damn, I wasn't expecting a barrage of "LOL n00b that is retarded why the F would you ever do that?".

You say something silly on this board you will get slammed. Happens to everyone. I think you're taking it too hard. Have a beer. Relax. And stop asking the CA to non-rev. And stop trying to defend it as "respecting the CA" :rolleyes

Vandal 01-30-2012 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1126158)
You say something silly on this board you will get slammed. Happens to everyone. I think you're taking it too hard. Have a beer. Relax. And stop asking the CA to non-rev. And stop trying to defend it as "respecting the CA" :rolleyes

Fine, geez, point taken. Wish I hadn't said anything to begin with.

MoonShot 01-30-2012 05:43 PM

Could you imagine if every non rev checked in departing from ATL? We'd never leave!

Its great to be nice, but there is no reason to check in while a non rev.

Tchinson 01-30-2012 06:01 PM

I always try to stop up front and say hi if I get the chance, even if I am just non revving. All I know is that on my flights, I like to know if we have any talent in the back, just in case we might need them. United 232 ring a bell? It's just common courtesy, as long as you aren't interrupting anything, and it only takes a few seconds.

WstCstCmtr 01-30-2012 07:06 PM

Don't talk to me if you're nonreving.

I DON'T CARE.

And if I am nonreving I get my ticket, get on the plane, say good afternoon to the greeting flight attendant, walk straight to my seat, and go to sleep.

Cruz5350 01-30-2012 07:21 PM

I pop my head in and say a quick thanks.

TheFly 01-30-2012 08:32 PM

Every time I JS/nonrev on WN, the lead FA directs me to check in with the CA.

When I go on USA, I am always told to submit my nonrev paperwork to the CA. I have even been asked for my certificate & medical so the CA can see it. Once when riding in the back.

I check in with the crew with a quick thanks regardless.

MachJ 01-30-2012 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1126119)
Frankly I had never heard of anyone "asking" to non-rev...ever, so if it happened face-to-face I probably would have said "welcome" and proceeded to try to figure out what just happened for the next hour.

LOL
and +1


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80ktsClamp 01-30-2012 08:47 PM

When non-revving I'll say hi only if it's convenient for both parties or if I know the guys operating.

WstCstCmtr 01-30-2012 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 1126273)
Every time I JS/nonrev on WN, the lead FA directs me to check in with the CA.

When I go on USA, I am always told to submit my nonrev paperwork to the CA. I have even been asked for my certificate & medical so the CA can see it. Once when riding in the back.

I check in with the crew with a quick thanks regardless.

Jumpseating ≠ Nonreving

Do you work for Southwest? No? Then you cannot nonrev.

skyxbomb 01-30-2012 10:05 PM

I say hi when I can, only when I'm in uniform. The other day, a flight was weight restricted from phl-lga, but the pdt crew worked it out to get me on, of course I went and thanked them while chit chat for few mins.

Deadheading I don't say hi unless I know the crew, but of course I stay after everyone deplanes then help with seat belts at least.

Anytime I'm riding in the back of a different carrier, I will go and ask for their blessings.

Saw some angry posts here about "why are you saying hi???" were you guys not hugged when you were little? It's not that hard to be nice to others... geez

filejw 01-31-2012 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by squall line (Post 1125991)
And then there's the captain I've flown with who insists all crews check in with him. He instructs FA's to alert him if a pilot boards without "checking in" with him. This guy is a commuter himself! We have had many chats about this and there's no changing his mind about this. Sorry in advance to anyone who has to deal with him.

My opinion, pass travelers,deadheads, nonrev need not check in with the crew.

Had guy like that a few years back. I just told the FA my seat number and that if he want to say hi that's the place to find me.There was 18 of us and I was wondering if he want all of us to say hi to him. He never showed and its to bad as I was looking forward to a little conversation with him.


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