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mooney 04-06-2012 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1164881)
This "it's all about me" mentality that is starting to show up from several pinnacle pilots is making me think this place is quickly becoming the next GoJet.

right on. except I noticed the mentality starting about 4 years ago. And it's still climbing...

DeadHead 04-06-2012 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1165084)
right on. except I noticed the mentality starting about 4 years ago. And it's still climbing...

I think it started alot longer than 4 years ago, but it is getting progressively worse as time moves on.

What ever happened to supporting your fellow pilots, as if a job at Pinnacle airlines, working for scumbags like Sean M. and Phil T., is worth it.

samballs 04-06-2012 11:54 AM

The its all about me attitude started with the baby boomers.

ShyGuy 04-06-2012 12:16 PM

"All about me" attitude? Propose a straight up DOH and see who beotches against it. Can you throw the "all about me" attitude to them? After all, they wouldn't have 15 month Captains anymore if it was DOH. Or, is the "it's all about me" attitude only reserved for Pinnacle pilots who are now PO'ed at the company and the union (lack of agreement amongst themselves and for the lawyer's binding arbitration) for where we are today.

anthony210 04-06-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1165117)
"All about me" attitude? Propose a straight up DOH and see who beotches against it. Can you throw the "all about me" attitude to them? After all, they wouldn't have 15 month Captains anymore if it was DOH. Or, is the "it's all about me" attitude only reserved for Pinnacle pilots who are now PO'ed at the company and the union (lack of agreement amongst themselves and for the lawyer's binding arbitration) for where we are today.

Your MEC agreed to binding arbitration. Just because it did not turn out the way you wanted does mean you get to change your mind.

Bloch gave us a list and it is our seniority list whether you like it or not. No judge is going to throw out a decision made by a neutral arbitrator. You guys over at Pinnacle are turning this into US Airways regional style.

Good luck to those getting furloughed, in the conference call they mentioned something about working with other ALPA carriers to get furloughed pilots new jobs.

80ktsClamp 04-06-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1165117)
"All about me" attitude? Propose a straight up DOH and see who beotches against it. Can you throw the "all about me" attitude to them? After all, they wouldn't have 15 month Captains anymore if it was DOH. Or, is the "it's all about me" attitude only reserved for Pinnacle pilots who are now PO'ed at the company and the union (lack of agreement amongst themselves and for the lawyer's binding arbitration) for where we are today.

These guys are all into the DOH and ignoring binding arbitration thing, too. It's working out fantastic for them!

USAPA: US Airline Pilots Association

ShyGuy 04-06-2012 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by anthony210 (Post 1165135)
Your MEC agreed to binding arbitration. Just because it did not turn out the way you wanted does mean you get to change your mind.

Bloch gave us a list and it is our seniority list whether you like it or not. No judge is going to throw out a decision made by a neutral arbitrator. You guys over at Pinnacle are turning this into US Airways regional style.

Good luck to those getting furloughed, in the conference call they mentioned something about working with other ALPA carriers to get furloughed pilots new jobs.

The union agreed to a lot of things behind our backs. We were just notified or told after when it was matter of fact. And working with other ALPA carriers to get jobs? Keep your options open. If GoJets hires you, go. Don't get sucked into the "ALPA carrier only" doorway. There are more options.

Skypilotsv1984 04-06-2012 02:29 PM

Are these other ALPA carriers going to be something other than another regional? I'm not starting over again. I'll start over at a place that is worth it.

ShyGuy 04-06-2012 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984 (Post 1165173)
Are these other ALPA carriers going to be something other than another regional? I'm not starting over again. I'll start over at a place that is worth it.

If you mean major or legacy, the only ones hiring right now are Spirit (ALPA), Virgin (non-union), Fedex, umm.....?

AxialFlow 04-06-2012 06:07 PM

I think a liveable FO wages would help quell the internal struggle for upgrades. Just sayin'...


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