bender

ATL is no longer a base

jetstream11

question for you skywest guys. I know MSP is a junior base, do you see it staying that way? also as far as flying in MSP goes do you expect an increase or decrease? Obviously I want MSP ha

Herb Flemmming

Be prepared to interview I was told. The website also kind of indicates that.

jedinein

There's a rumor that flying is increasing there. You should be able to get any base you want within a few months, LAX and PHX as the possible exceptions. But that could change in a month, too.

DD214

+1
VERY VERY VERY Bad Advice and a Terrible IDEA.

jheath

Deleted....

Piedmonster

And PDX, SEA, SFO...
Don't count on any of those or LAX in under a year (jet). Not gonna happen. PHX is a maybe if we pickup more USAir flying/hours and they expand it, but plan MSP/IAH as your bases for the 1st 6 months at least if you're on the jet.

The further west you go, the more senior the base.

KTM450

The most junior FO's in SEA and PDX have about 4.5 years of seniority. Realistically you should be comfortable with MSP or IAH. Anything else would be a gamble.

Piedmonster

Ok, I took some time to break this down. As of tonight, here's the #s, now you can have some reasonable expectations.


It reads:

Base / Total FOs in Base/ # of targeted Line holders / DOH of Jr Line In base / DOH Jr Line Holder / # of people with a standing bid for that base

Basically:
*How many people are based there and the most Junior's DOH
*The number of line holders (targeted) and the DOH of most Jr. line holder
*The total # of people who have a bid (OF ANY TYPE) in to transfer to that base (basically the # of eligible people before you assuming you get hired tomorrow).

The EMP goes very junior and there's a lot of movement, you can see that you can hold any base within 6 months, and most bases a line within a few months in base.

The CRJ is a different story. It's all over the map.
And it's deceptive because there are bases like SFO/LAX/PSP/TUS which all have a couple people at bottom with lesser seniority than average for that base, and have a lot of people senior (who were previously on seat lock, now off) waiting to come in the base as vacancies open. But these are the straight #s. How long to hold it, how long to get a line, and the kind of waitlist, especially good to reference against base size.
SFO had 57 FOs based there and 72 people who want in.
SEA has 18 FOs based there, and 72 wanting in.
SLC has 324 based there and 61 wanting in.
So see the numbers for what they are worth.


EMB (I did not look at # of Standing bids for the EMB, hence the x)
FAT / 85 / Feb2012 / 60 / Jan2012 / x
PSP / 24 / Feb2012 / 17 / Aug2011 / x
PDX / 19 / Jan2012 / 16 / Oct2011 / x
SLC / 38 / Nov2011 / 30 / Jul2011 / x
LAX / 20 / Oct2011 / 16 / Oct2011 / x
SFO / 4 / Oct2011 / 2 / Feb2011 / x
SBP / 10 / Jul2011 / 8 / Apr2011 / x

CRJ
COS / 52 / Dec2011 / 42 / Aug2011 / 52
DEN / 222 / Oct2011 / 156 / Jan2008 / 77
FAT / 33 / Oct2011 / 27 / Aug2011 / 46
IAH / 75 / Nov2011 / 84 / Jun2011 / 69
LAX / 75 / Jun2011 / 57 / Feb2008 / 74
MSP / 125 / Jan2012 / 87 / Jul2011 / 60
ORD / 162 / Aug2011 / 120 / Jan2008 / 62
PDX / 22 / Oct2007 / 18 / Apr2007 / 69
PHX / 61 / Jun2011 / 52 / Jan2011 / 86
PSP / 17 / Apr2011 / 13 / Oct2007 / 48
SEA / 21 / Oct 2007 / 19 / Aug 2007 / 72
SFO / 57 / Apr 2011 / 47 / Mar2011 / 72
SLC / 324 / Feb2012 / 254 / Jun2008 / 61
TUS / 15 / Jul2011 / 10 / Jul2011 / 49

duvie

Piedmonster, great post. Thanks for taking the time