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memphisbelle 04-19-2012 05:56 AM

SM Out at 9E
 
Per the Commercial Appeal this morning...

Sean Menke to step down as Pinnacle Airlines CEO » The Commercial Appeal

Nice job...looks like JS will be taking over.

Guess it was just <sniff, sniff> too rough on his family after all.

Sorry, guys...doesn't look good. Best of luck to all.

captain152 04-19-2012 06:05 AM

Buckle up boys and girls... Gonna be a rough ride.

Ah geez!

BS in proflight 04-19-2012 06:10 AM

I would say Delta is forsure calling the shots and pulling the strings now. Spanjers who will succeed Menke was CEO of Mesaba in their last bankruptcy and you just had the feeling he was a "yes man" to NWA back then.

BS in proflight 04-19-2012 06:15 AM

Makes you wonder why he is stepping down. I'm guessing he doesn't have the stomach for this Sham bankruptcy for what ever reason. Maybe he doesn't want to have to explain his pay raise 30 times in front of a bankruptcy judge or maybe Delta wants to gut the place so bad he doesn't want to be around for that. Any guesses??

vtx531 04-19-2012 06:17 AM

Seeeeyaaaaaaaaa!


Apparantly they need a training contract for execs.

PinnacleFO 04-19-2012 06:22 AM

This may not be a popular statement but I believe that menhke came in thinking he would be running the company, then he found out that delta would be controlling everything. I believe his tears were real and were probably out of frustration. I generally believe he was a good guy and probably wanted out but they gave him that money to shut up. This guy although he is a bankruptcy specialist has nothing but good reviews from his former employees. This confirms to me that we are under complete control of delta airlines

jetstream11 04-19-2012 06:27 AM

blah..thats how i feel now about working for this company. just dont care anymore. I'll keep working until they tell me to go home.

Airsupport 04-19-2012 06:34 AM

So does this complete the hostel take over of pinnacle by mesaba?

LoudFastRules 04-19-2012 06:34 AM

Spanjers has never been a "leader" per se. He is a very competent administrator, and he's at his best when taking calls from the mothership.

CrippleHawk 04-19-2012 06:49 AM

does that mean that John Spanjers will be getting another raise?

mikeypat15 04-19-2012 06:52 AM

When's the vacancy bid for COO and CFO?

Vertisch 04-19-2012 06:53 AM

I really thought he would last longer.

jayray 04-19-2012 07:29 AM

I'm sure he's going to get a lot done between now and June 1 now. I'll put my vote in for this place going down in a ball of fire. I just don't see this place shrinking to profitability. Not after firing 800 of your lowest paid workers. It is Comair all over again except we didn't even have to strike.

PBSG 04-19-2012 07:52 AM

So which airline is SM going to screw over next? Funny thing is we all know he won't be unemployed for long.

Lone Palm 04-19-2012 08:02 AM


When's the vacancy bid for COO and CFO?
Quote of the day!

Saabs 04-19-2012 08:06 AM

Where's the guy that's gonna say "With this news spanjers is going to ask for out of seniority furloughs to lower training costs? It was ONLY S.M. That said he wouldn't furlough out of seniority, not Spanjers"

What would Captain Pete do?

AV8R 04-19-2012 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by mikeypat15 (Post 1171747)
When's the vacancy bid for COO and CFO?

Screw that, we need Memphis' best for this gig. Anybody have Willie Herenton's number?

ShyGuy 04-19-2012 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Vertisch (Post 1171748)
I really thought he would last longer.

That's what she said?

MunkyButtr 04-19-2012 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1171816)
That's what she said?

Quite possibly your best post ever

BIGRIG 04-19-2012 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1171799)

What would Captain Pete do?

probably get hung up on.

FlyJSH 04-19-2012 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by mikeypat15 (Post 1171747)
When's the vacancy bid for COO and CFO?

Bring back Harry Mitchel and Mary Finnegan. After all, they were the ones who always said, "The Qs are our future!"

Prancinghorse 04-19-2012 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1171816)
That's what she said?

Hahahahahahah!!!!!

ShyGuy made a funny!!

Wow there's still hope for you! Maybe you're a human being after all.

See something good is coming out of this mess.

MunkyButtr 04-19-2012 09:20 AM

Does he get severance pay during ch 11?

AxialFlow 04-19-2012 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by jayray (Post 1171762)
It is Comair all over again except we didn't even have to strike.

Pinnacle IS the next Comair. Comair will be gone in 2 years and Delta needs a new carrier to be the whip-saw. Management is going to swing for the fences when the subject of paycuts comes up in BK court. And ALPA gave them plenty of fodder, with our "Industry Leading Contract" and all...

This is going to get messy.

flycrj200 04-19-2012 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1171862)
Pinnacle IS the next Comair. Comair will be gone in 2 years and Delta needs a new carrier to be the whip-saw. Management is going to swing for the fences when the subject of paycuts comes up in BK court. And ALPA gave them plenty of fodder, with our "Industry Leading Contract" and all...

This is going to get messy.

Why do you think Comair will be gone in 2 years and Pinnacle will survive this fraud of a BK?

George Dubya 04-19-2012 12:05 PM

Will this affect my pinnacle points?

Colnago 04-19-2012 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by George Dubya (Post 1171934)
Will this affect my pinnacle points?

Question of the century!

djrogs03 04-19-2012 12:35 PM

The best part of this merger for me was getting new uniform pants...albeit it took a while for them to get the size right

PCLCREW 04-19-2012 12:36 PM



Originally Posted by mikeypat15 (Post 1171747)
When's the vacancy bid for COO and CFO?

Bring back Harry Mitchel and Mary Finnegan. After all, they were the ones who always said, "The Qs are our future!"
This world is a much safer and better place with MF nowhere near an airline.

djrogs03 04-19-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by george dubya (Post 1171934)
will this affect my pinnacle points?

like ^^^^^^

Colnago 04-19-2012 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1171962)
The best part of this merger for me was getting new uniform pants...albeit it took a while for them to get the size right

lol the pants were horrible.

Tom a Hawk 04-20-2012 09:06 AM

He left us!
 
Jurassic Park - He left us, he left us! But thats not... what I'm gonna do. - YouTube

Imapilot2 04-20-2012 09:49 AM

Mr. Jingles returns

Av8tion 04-20-2012 11:20 AM

Take The Money And Run - The Steve Miller Band (Lyrics + HQ) - YouTube

Av8tion 04-20-2012 04:56 PM

Half-assed lyrics change.... feel free to improve on it at your pleasure...


This heres a story about Philly T and Seany M
Two CEOs with nothin better to do
Than sit around the office, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose

They headed down to, ooh, Downtown Memphis
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
Philly T shot a man while robbing his castle
Seany M took the money and run

Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

Richie Bloch is a detective down in texas
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He aint gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin' off of the peoples taxes

Philly T, whoa, whoa, he slipped away
Seany M caught up to him the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

memphisbelle 04-20-2012 05:51 PM

Goodbye to all my friends at home
Goodbye to people I've trusted
I've got to go out and make my way
I might get rich, you know I might get busted


Big ol' jet airliner....oh, er, nevermind. :(

vtx531 04-20-2012 06:42 PM

Lil' somewhat new jetairliner...

Congrats to those at Colgan who will be getting a raise to fly it. :rolleyes:

FlyJSH 04-20-2012 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by vtx531 (Post 1173053)
Lil' somewhat new jetairliner...

Congrats to those at Colgan who will be getting a raise to fly it. :rolleyes:

Well, this colgan guy (who upgraded prior to the SLI, and could have held a 200 CA slot, but didn't) will be getting down graded (including the 15000pay cut).

The difference is while the fences may hurt me, I'm not bitter. The dice were thrown, and I got craps. Oh well.

That said, I'll still wear the four stripes I earned, and I'll respect the CA to my left. If you have a problem with that, too bad.

Saabs 04-21-2012 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1173127)
Well, this colgan guy (who upgraded prior to the SLI, and could have held a 200 CA slot, but didn't) will be getting down graded (including the 15000pay cut).

The difference is while the fences may hurt me, I'm not bitter. The dice were thrown, and I got craps. Oh well.

That said, I'll still wear the four stripes I earned, and I'll respect the CA to my left. If you have a problem with that, too bad.

While I definitely dont want to wear four stripes after my downgrade I'm not buying a new jacket myself. Do they have to buy us one?

SmitteyB 04-21-2012 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1173127)
Well, this colgan guy (who upgraded prior to the SLI, and could have held a 200 CA slot, but didn't) will be getting down graded (including the 15000pay cut).

The difference is while the fences may hurt me, I'm not bitter. The dice were thrown, and I got craps. Oh well.

That said, I'll still wear the four stripes I earned, and I'll respect the CA to my left. If you have a problem with that, too bad.

You will not wear 4 stripes sitting in right seat. That is disrespectful. The jacket is one thing, but not epaulettes.

Technically you will be in uniform standards non-compliance. Which is subject to discipline. Look- none of us are happy about getting downgraded, but it's not worth it to be unprofessional.


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